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> That they won't say means the parts were used in service. Or they don't know.
by tjoff 3y ago
> That they won't say means the parts were used in service.
Or they don't know.
- RockRobotRock 3y agoFeel like the traceability of those things would be really good. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
- fransje26 3y agoIt is really good. That's how they found out.
- rbanffy 3y agoI worked in one, and currently work in another, company that makes such tracking tools and I can say that we keep track of a lot of things, from tobacco to the screws that hold the turbine blades. Everything is tracked.
- mulmen 3y agoWhy and how do you track tobacco? Is that a typo?
- imp0cat 3y agohttps://health.ec.europa.eu/tobacco/product-regulation/systems-tobacco-traceability-and-security-features_en https://health.ec.europa.eu/tobacco/product-regulation/syste... > to address the issue of illicit trade
- hef19898 3y agoNever worked on stuff getting into peoples boddies, but the reason propably is that yes, people inhale it. Hence the tracking, after all chips have lot numbers printed on the packaging.
- sumtechguy 3y agoFor food items it is usually in case something is wrong with it making people sick they can issue a recall.
- onion2k 3y agoOr it's barely working and they found the 21 easiest-to-find examples out of an unknown quantity.
- fransje26 3y agoThe time-on-wing before overhaul advertised for the CFM56 is 10'000 hours. Now, take your car, drive it for that long at 50 kph, and you come out at 500'000 km (or 312'500 miles, if that's how you tick.) before major components need inspecting and/or changing. That's how good the parts are, and how well the traceability of those parts is working.
- ChrisRR 3y agoTraceability always has its blind spots. Even in my experience in medical devices there's been issues with manufacturers who swap components out for what they considered to be equivalent components, and sensor manufacturers that change their components without informing the customers because they considered the functionality to be identical (spoilers, it wasn't)
- yellow_lead 3y agoMaybe. Also concerning
- irjustin 3y agoThey know. This isn't like a car. Everything is traced.
- meragrin_ 3y agoJust because they have the information does not mean it is readily available in a form which will answer a question. Parts currently in service is probably something they have regular use for and is easy to access. Figuring out the complete history of a part probably takes quite a bit longer and is not a frequent use. Throw in several parts and I can believe they aren't ready to commit to an answer.
- j16sdiz 3y agoeverything is traced. ...but we are talking about forged documents. How can we sure the trace records are not forged? Cross checking take time
- tremon 3y agoIt seems AOG Technics operated by falsifying part manifests using the names of accredited suppliers: https://fortune.com/2023/09/22/why-so-many-flights-canceled-delayed-aog-technics-fake-parts-american-airlines/ https://fortune.com/2023/09/22/why-so-many-flights-canceled-... CFM, the engine manufacturer, became aware of the issues in June when a Portuguese repair shop alerted it to the existence of allegedly forged documents bearing its name So presumably, all (?) they had to do was trace the paperwork from all parts supplied through AOG Technics, and contact the suppliers in those documents to verify the documents/parts were real.