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Isn't that open and shut fraud on the part of ebay?

by j-bos 3y ago

hiatus 3y ago
How is that fraud? Ebay is brokering a deal between two parties. It doesn't seem inherently fraudulent to offer differing prices to each party.
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- arp242 3y ago
  The deal I make with eBay is "I sell X for whatever the highest bidder pays, and then pay a percentage of that to Ebay for services rendered" (10% IIRC). That is: I would get $315 and eBay $35, but instead what happened is that I get $270 and eBay $80. Note that it DIDN'T list a "higher price for the buyer"; people were bidding so that price was correct. What it did was list a LOWER price to the seller. This is like you giving me your guitar and telling me "Martin, sell it for me and keep 10% of the price for your trouble" and then I lie to you about the price I sold it for so I can keep the difference. I don't know how else to describe this than fraud. This seems wildly illegal in most jurisdictions and I'm surprised they're getting away with it.
  - hiatus 3y ago
    I see what you mean and indeed that does sound fraudulent. Initially it had seemed to me sort of like ebay acting as a middle man and buying from you/selling to the buyer but them saying they sold your item for X price when they did not sounds cut and dry.
  - sgerenser 3y ago
    Are you in a state with sales tax? eBay is required by law to collect sales tax from the buyer, and it does not get passed on to you (nor does it go to eBay, it goes to the state taxing authority). As you are currently describing the issue, it makes absolutely no sense otherwise.
    - pierat 3y ago
      Tax was being collected, on top of the $350 being told to the buyer. Ebay told me $300 for the completion of the auction. There was the normal fees associated with listing, which again, are understood. This $50 discrepancy was not accountable anywhere. It just went poof into Ebay's gaping maw. Like I said, we both compared notes and what our respective screens said. The numbers absolutely did not add up. And Ebay reallllly doesnt want the buyer and seller to talk directly. It's why the "ebay mail" is so limited and crippled, to prevent actual conversations like this from taking place. I talked with them over text and email proper. There was no filter, or daddy ebay censoring all my messages.

Isn't that open and shut fraud on the part of ebay?

by j-bos 3y ago

Isn't that open and shut fraud on the part of ebay?

How is that fraud? Ebay is brokering a deal between two parties. It doesn't seem inherently fraudulent to offer differing prices to each party.

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arp242 3y ago
The deal I make with eBay is "I sell X for whatever the highest bidder pays, and then pay a percentage of that to Ebay for services rendered" (10% IIRC). That is: I would get $315 and eBay $35, but instead what happened is that I get $270 and eBay $80. Note that it DIDN'T list a "higher price for the buyer"; people were bidding so that price was correct. What it did was list a LOWER price to the seller. This is like you giving me your guitar and telling me "Martin, sell it for me and keep 10% of the price for your trouble" and then I lie to you about the price I sold it for so I can keep the difference. I don't know how else to describe this than fraud. This seems wildly illegal in most jurisdictions and I'm surprised they're getting away with it.
- hiatus 3y ago
  I see what you mean and indeed that does sound fraudulent. Initially it had seemed to me sort of like ebay acting as a middle man and buying from you/selling to the buyer but them saying they sold your item for X price when they did not sounds cut and dry.
- sgerenser 3y ago
  Are you in a state with sales tax? eBay is required by law to collect sales tax from the buyer, and it does not get passed on to you (nor does it go to eBay, it goes to the state taxing authority). As you are currently describing the issue, it makes absolutely no sense otherwise.
  - pierat 3y ago
    Tax was being collected, on top of the $350 being told to the buyer. Ebay told me $300 for the completion of the auction. There was the normal fees associated with listing, which again, are understood. This $50 discrepancy was not accountable anywhere. It just went poof into Ebay's gaping maw. Like I said, we both compared notes and what our respective screens said. The numbers absolutely did not add up. And Ebay reallllly doesnt want the buyer and seller to talk directly. It's why the "ebay mail" is so limited and crippled, to prevent actual conversations like this from taking place. I talked with them over text and email proper. There was no filter, or daddy ebay censoring all my messages.