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The depreciation between Pixels and iPhones is staggering. Trade-in in Germany on Google Store page: - Pixel 6 Pro 256gb ($999 on release) - 235€ - iPhone 13
by Lutzb 3y ago
The depreciation between Pixels and iPhones is staggering.
Trade-in in Germany on Google Store page:
- Pixel 6 Pro 256gb ($999 on release) - 235€
- iPhone 13 Pro 256gb ($1099 on release) - 730€
While I am partial to Googles line of phones (had pretty much every Google phone since the nexus one), the loss of value is something I cannot really ignore any more when deciding to buy a phone.
- jacooper 3y agoThats why you just wait and get it cheap.
- eptcyka 3y agoOlder phones don't get significantly cheaper when bought new, used ones are a gamble, and the savings don't go that far anyway when you consider the amount of updates you'll be receiving diminishes.
- jacooper 3y agoPixels are supported for 7 years, starting with the 8. P6+ for 5 years Also I'm talking like a couple months later, not a whole year.
- lazycouchpotato 3y ago8 and 8 Pro are seven years of OS updates, but 6 and 7 are three years OS updates and five years of security updates.
- eptcyka 3y agoSure, but my perfectly working Pixel 5 is going out of support before the end of the year, I expect the resale value to be 0.
- Valakas_ 3y agoWho the hell cares that one's phone is going out of support? This anal obsession with OS updates for some people is honestly appalling. If the phone doesn't get updated every micro second the sky is falling and the phone becomes a dangerous place. What are you doing on your phone that you need to be on top of OS security so badly? Browsing on the dark web? Going to sketchy sites? Have no password savers or 2nd factor auth? I had a Samsung galaxy S7 until less than a year ago. Had ZERO issues. Now calculate how many years I was out of support. I have now a Pixel 4a5G. I will only trade it for another for the same reason I did with the S7 - when it becomes too slow. Or it explodes, or turns to dust.
- eptcyka 3y agoI do not care about getting the latest updates, I care about having all the vulnerabilities being fixed. Can you load a malicious WebM file without executing arbitrary code in a webview on your S7?
- jhasse 3y agoYes, the WebView got upgraded via the Play Store.
- gehen88 3y agoI use my phone to access work stuff. That's a huge reason to need security updates.
- well_actulily 3y agoA major confounding variable here is that there's probably a bit more of a motive for Google to get someone to move cross-manufacturer than to incentivize an upgrade from someone who already has a Google phone—depreciation aside.
- mpalmer 3y agoMaybe it's just worth more to Google to convert an iPhone owner? Trade in value is not a very pure measurement of depreciation.
- kkielhofner 3y agoA search of completed/sold listings on eBay shows roughly 2x resale pricing for the iPhone 13 Pro 256gb vs the Pixel 6 Pro 256gb.
- graton 3y agoIn the US it is $400 for the Pixel 6 Pro (256GB) and $550 for the iPhone 13 Pro (256GB) to trade-in for a Pixel 8 Pro (128GB). I am probably going to trade in an old Pixel 3 (64GB) that I had sitting in a drawer. They will give $200 trade-in for it for a Pixel 8 or Pixel 8 Pro. Only $30 trade-in for the other phones they sell.
- thefourthchime 3y agoNew Pixel 6 Pros are selling for around $400 on eBay, used ones go for about $250. iPhone 13 Pros are priced at approximately $700 new and $500-600 used. My hot take is that the vast majority of Android users are not specifically looking for an Android; they just want "a phone." There's a minority of hardcore Android fans who are committed to specific models like the Samsung S23 or Pixel. In contrast, there are many people specifically want an iPhone, whether it's for iMessage, the ecosystem, or even just for the status symbol. This seems to hold a lot more value.
- gr__or 3y ago500€ for my iPhone 13 Pro 128gb from Apple's trade-in partner here in Germany.
- libertine 3y agoWhat I don't get are these price tags. My last flagship phone was a Google Nexus 6P where the base model was $499. Amazing phone, too bad after 3 years it had a battery issue but the manufacturer gave me a new one. But the thing is: it was $499. That was the greatest thing about the Nexus lines - good hardware (maybe not the latest SOC) with regular updates and a good OS experience. I miss those phones. Google with the Pixels went full goofy mode. I'm not paying 1.140€ for a phone. I have a Huawei P10 that's still running smoothly, just the battery is getting tired... so maybe ill get one of those Pixel 6 Pro :) But Google pushed away a lot of the Nexus user base, who were hyped every year for the new Nexus.
- fluidcruft 3y agoIsn't that the segment the Pixel _a line targets? The 7a is $499...
- libertine 3y agoYes, but the 6P was the flagship. This was back in the day where a flagship phones base prices were like 600/700€. Now it's double. In 2018 the Samsung Galaxy 9 was 700€. Now a Samsung Galaxy S23 is 1.200€.
- hatsix 3y agoBack then, phone providers were competing to be the Nexus brand, so it was generally a loss-leader. The brand that released the Nexus phone would release their actual flagship about 3 months later. Also, inflation.
- fomine3 3y ago7a is almost a flagship, so most people don't have to care their flagship series. Just buy a series. Nowadays "flagship" means that the best camera they can achieve.
- Mistletoe 3y ago“Now it’s double” is what they will write on the tombstone for this era.
- partiallypro 3y agoMy trade in for the 7 Pro was $420 to get the new 8.
- smusamashah 3y agoThis means best way to buy a pixel is few years after release, and even better if it's a used one. I recently got Pixel 4a and believe i can easily keep using this for at least 2 3 years.
- alxmdev 3y agoThe 4A doesn't get security updates anymore though, right? The language on the website says "guaranteed until at least August 2023" so I guess it's up to Google's good will.
- smusamashah 3y agoDo security updates really matter that much? May be they do depending on your usage patterns. I think anyone will be fine without most of those security updates. Also most of the slowdowns are caused by automatically updating apps which keep gaining weight with every update.
- justusthane 3y agoYes, security updates absolutely matter regardless of your usage pattern. You could unwittingly visit a website that has been compromised to exploit a zero-day in your browser. Or receive a malicious text message. Or open a PDF. Or or or.
- HJain13 3y ago>You could unwittingly visit a website that has been compromised to exploit a zero-day in your browser. In Android, browser, messaging app updates and many even system updates are delivered through Play store (long after system/OS updates have stopped for the phone), so attacks will have to be much more sophisticated.
- distances 3y agoNobody that I know cares the least bit if they get security updates or not. Could be that it changes if there ever comes along a widespread exploit that won't get patched, but currently it's just not a concern especially for any non-techie.
- postalrat 3y agoGoogles trade in value is also based on what other deals they are offering. Bad or no deals they often give you better trade in value.