I make it a point to seek out negative opinions of the projects I work on, because a lot of the time there's at least a kernel of a bug report behind every comp

I make it a point to seek out negative opinions of the projects I work on, because a lot of the time there's at least a kernel of a bug report behind every complaint. > BULLSHIT!!! > Have you tried listening to yourself? But this? This is the exact kind of attitude I find every now and then that makes me throw my hands in the air and think "why the fuck do I bother", before I retire to my issue tracker for a while. > It's not a problem that nobody can use the tutorials to learn the language because the language keeps changing every three months and the tutorials no longer work? The GP is arguing that it is not a problem that occurs and that the complaint in the root comment is about the opposite problem. You're misreading the person you're so passionately replying to. > It's a real problem. Can you point at any change in the past 12 months that would make the teaching of the language with an older tutorial no longer useful/confusing/a problem at all? > I know a lot of people who won't give Rust the time of day because of this issue. It's hard to take the language and community seriously while this real problem persists. I always try to get to the underlying problem that can be solved, if not for the person complaining, for anyone that will come after. But here? I am struggling to see anything actionable. The language doesn't change as much as you're implying, we make an effort to ensure that the developer experience for newcomers is as good as it can be. We have a lot of work ahead of us, but I look at what we've done since 1.0 and it makes me proud of where we are today. There are two separate concerns: - building new projects with older Rust, what the root comment is complaining about, which is a factor of how quickly the ecosystem adopts newer language/std features. The options there are to use older versions of the libraries or update their Rust version. Anything else is complaining that Office 97 cannot open files from Office XP. - building older projects with newer Rust, what you claim to be a show-stopping issue with Rust. I haven't seen evidence that this is a prevalent issue. I would love to see it if you do have it.