Ye well I agree in general. It is hard to figure out intention and many cars seem to be on a slippery slope of adding features to protect the user from other fe

Ye well I agree in general. It is hard to figure out intention and many cars seem to be on a slippery slope of adding features to protect the user from other features. Except the surprise rollback. I think it is really hard to notice if you don't expect it, if it starts off slowly. A Scania truck will engage the parking brake on hill hold if you disengage the seat belt or turn the engine off. The manual variant just allows hill hold for like 5 seconds and then releases the brakes after some warning sounds. I haven't really tried out how any car with hill hold and electric pbrake behaves when you do strange things, so dunno if any engage the p-brake or locks the transmission.