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The landlord is the obvious person to investigate when the tenant is "rid of"

by bagels 3y ago

mynameishere 3y ago
Nah, such services already exist. You just have some extremely loutish, heavy-hitting-seeming dude "move in" with the squatter with a legit lease. The mission is to be so foul and unpleasant that the original squatter leaves. In other contexts due to jury nullification, prosecutorial misconduct and similar you might actually see vigilante groups for hire. The opening scene from The Godfather was based on reality.
- chimen 3y ago
  That's another can of worms in itself.
- daft_pink 3y ago
  My experience representing wealthy client is that you don't want to be the person worth millions of dollars in some lawsuit against someone worth almost nothing. While the tenant can always declare bankruptcy for money they owe you, engaging in illegal activity against a tenant could easily result in you owing that person far more than the nuisance and lost rent from them living in your backyard. Reality is the landlord has a lot more to lose than the tenant, so what you're describing is completely impractical.
  - rllearneratwork 3y ago
    In ex-USSR that would mean just having the judge either be part of the gang offering protection or have the gang "talk" to him/her for a potentially additional fee. A subscription type of fee was more common though.
cooper_ganglia 3y ago
There's nothing to investigate if he's just paying a group of people monthly dues, and, entirely unrelated to that, an unknown group of people commit crimes that just so happen to affect the problem tenants. I could see this happening.
- Larrikin 3y ago
  Accessory to murder, racketeering, and various other laws handle your "one neat trick prosecutors hate!"
  - cooper_ganglia 3y ago
    I'm not advocating for it, just making the observation that it seems like it happens elsewhere and seems to be reasonably realistic. Gangs providing "protection" for money is a relatively normal thing, yes? I use quotes here since you're also buying protection from the gang itself. But could you really be prosecuted if there was never any explicit discussion for getting rid of a tenant? Am I responsible for the unrequested criminal actions of a group that I also happen to pay? Is it racketeering if they offer other, legitimate services? These are all asked genuinely, I'm now morbidly curious if it's possible to get away with it, haha.
    - dappermanneke 3y ago
      judges and prosecutors are not stupid, most of the time they are just overworked, so yes, as soon as someone directs their attention to this bulletproof setup, it falls apart and you go to prison
  - dimmke 3y ago
    Hey, I have no other way of contacting you because I guess you can't reply after a certain amount of time but the Logitech mouse I was referring to was the Logitech G Pro series I didn't reply at the time because I wasn't sure if they had upgraded to USB C but I can confirm that as of today, October 8th, 2023 Logitech is still selling $130 mouses with micro usb ports.

The landlord is the obvious person to investigate when the tenant is "rid of"

by bagels 3y ago

The landlord is the obvious person to investigate when the tenant is "rid of"

Nah, such services already exist. You just have some extremely loutish, heavy-hitting-seeming dude "move in" with the squatter with a legit lease. The mission is to be so foul and unpleasant that the original squatter leaves. In other contexts due to jury nullification, prosecutorial misconduct and similar you might actually see vigilante groups for hire. The opening scene from The Godfather was based on reality.

chimen 3y ago
That's another can of worms in itself.
daft_pink 3y ago
My experience representing wealthy client is that you don't want to be the person worth millions of dollars in some lawsuit against someone worth almost nothing. While the tenant can always declare bankruptcy for money they owe you, engaging in illegal activity against a tenant could easily result in you owing that person far more than the nuisance and lost rent from them living in your backyard. Reality is the landlord has a lot more to lose than the tenant, so what you're describing is completely impractical.
- rllearneratwork 3y ago
  In ex-USSR that would mean just having the judge either be part of the gang offering protection or have the gang "talk" to him/her for a potentially additional fee. A subscription type of fee was more common though.

cooper_ganglia 3y ago

There's nothing to investigate if he's just paying a group of people monthly dues, and, entirely unrelated to that, an unknown group of people commit crimes that just so happen to affect the problem tenants. I could see this happening.

Larrikin 3y ago
Accessory to murder, racketeering, and various other laws handle your "one neat trick prosecutors hate!"
- cooper_ganglia 3y ago
  I'm not advocating for it, just making the observation that it seems like it happens elsewhere and seems to be reasonably realistic. Gangs providing "protection" for money is a relatively normal thing, yes? I use quotes here since you're also buying protection from the gang itself. But could you really be prosecuted if there was never any explicit discussion for getting rid of a tenant? Am I responsible for the unrequested criminal actions of a group that I also happen to pay? Is it racketeering if they offer other, legitimate services? These are all asked genuinely, I'm now morbidly curious if it's possible to get away with it, haha.
  - dappermanneke 3y ago
    judges and prosecutors are not stupid, most of the time they are just overworked, so yes, as soon as someone directs their attention to this bulletproof setup, it falls apart and you go to prison
- dimmke 3y ago
  Hey, I have no other way of contacting you because I guess you can't reply after a certain amount of time but the Logitech mouse I was referring to was the Logitech G Pro series I didn't reply at the time because I wasn't sure if they had upgraded to USB C but I can confirm that as of today, October 8th, 2023 Logitech is still selling $130 mouses with micro usb ports.