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That's a waste of your time and your money. When you consult with your lawyer they're going to point out the Code of Student Conduct you agreed to that stipulat

That's a waste of your time and your money. When you consult with your lawyer they're going to point out the Code of Student Conduct you agreed to that stipulates how automated tools are being used to detect plagiarism - tools that have been in place and in use for over ten years at this point. If anything, the new generation of AI tools should reduce the false positives. As another commenter here noted, even humans weren't perfect at this task. We've never been able to reduce the false positives to zero. Meanwhile, you owe your lawyer $350 for your initial consultation.

LanceH 3y ago
I'm skeptical. It might not make sense financially, but falsely accusing someone of something that wasn't done isn't absolved by using automated tools. It still requires a person to interpret the results and assess a penalty. Does the Code of Student Conduct say that plagiarism is bad? Or does it say that some secret program will assess the paper and be the sole judge of plagiarism? I'm guessing it's not the latter. Personally, I would stand my ground and tell the professor straight up, "I'm not writing it again, I've written it once." Leave them with the understanding of the hell to be paid for accusing me falsely. When I didn't do the work, I accepted the bad grades -- I didn't cheat. When I do the work, they will accept it, or we'll hash it out to the end of the earth.
- _yb2s 3y ago
  This is the answer... it is a matter of principle, and is worth a fight, on principle. If they can do it to you, they will do it to somebody else that might not have the ability to stop them that you do.
BoorishBears 3y ago
Ironic you wrote so authoritatively while completely missing the topic being discussed: this isn't AI to detect plagiarism, this is AI to supposedly detect AI output. That isn't done by looking for plagiarism, they're building snake oil models trained on GPT output.
singleshot_ 3y ago
Imagine an automated plagiarism detector that functioned by decapitating the student, putting their brain in a blender, and examining the results. Could any contractual release that the student signed make this ok? You can disclaim negligence, but you can’t disclaim malice or recklessness. You might find that this contract is not worth very much, depending on the facts of exactly how stupid this software is and how hard the school tried to find out whether it was stupid or not.
antifa 3y ago
> If anything, the new generation of AI tools should reduce the false positives. Anecdotes I've heard put the new "AI detecting AI-written"'s accuracy at worse than a coin flip.

LanceH 3y ago

I'm skeptical. It might not make sense financially, but falsely accusing someone of something that wasn't done isn't absolved by using automated tools. It still requires a person to interpret the results and assess a penalty. Does the Code of Student Conduct say that plagiarism is bad? Or does it say that some secret program will assess the paper and be the sole judge of plagiarism? I'm guessing it's not the latter. Personally, I would stand my ground and tell the professor straight up, "I'm not writing it again, I've written it once." Leave them with the understanding of the hell to be paid for accusing me falsely. When I didn't do the work, I accepted the bad grades -- I didn't cheat. When I do the work, they will accept it, or we'll hash it out to the end of the earth.

_yb2s 3y ago
This is the answer... it is a matter of principle, and is worth a fight, on principle. If they can do it to you, they will do it to somebody else that might not have the ability to stop them that you do.

BoorishBears 3y ago

Ironic you wrote so authoritatively while completely missing the topic being discussed: this isn't AI to detect plagiarism, this is AI to supposedly detect AI output. That isn't done by looking for plagiarism, they're building snake oil models trained on GPT output.

singleshot_ 3y ago

Imagine an automated plagiarism detector that functioned by decapitating the student, putting their brain in a blender, and examining the results. Could any contractual release that the student signed make this ok? You can disclaim negligence, but you can’t disclaim malice or recklessness. You might find that this contract is not worth very much, depending on the facts of exactly how stupid this software is and how hard the school tried to find out whether it was stupid or not.

antifa 3y ago

> If anything, the new generation of AI tools should reduce the false positives. Anecdotes I've heard put the new "AI detecting AI-written"'s accuracy at worse than a coin flip.