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I’ll fight you on your second point, though I feel the rest are valid. Healthy food is not more expensive than ultra processed food. Easy healthy food is. You

I’ll fight you on your second point, though I feel the rest are valid. Healthy food is not more expensive than ultra processed food. Easy healthy food is. You can go get quite a bit of basic meat and veggies for very little money compared to some Hot Pockets or McDonalds or whatever. I can make a stew for $15 that’s at least two meals for my family. Chuck roast, carrots, potatoes, onion, etc. Chicken is even cheaper. Availability is only poor in areas where people won’t willingly buy raw ingredients. Food deserts are (largely) lazy oases.

somewhereoutth 3y ago
Time - Cost - Quality Pick two. So you can have fast, cheap, but low quality food ('fast food'), or slow, cheap, good quality food (cooking at home), or fast, expensive, high quality food (decent restaurant). By time I would also include mental overhead required, i.e. thinking about cooking. Unfortunately poor people often have neither the money or the time to choose quality. The daft thing is that cooking individually, or indeed to order in a restaurant, is very inefficient. In fact it is possible to win on all 3, but this requires a communal style cafeteria as would be found in offices, schools, the military etc. Wouldn't it be great if such cafeterias were available to the general public, with a limited but rotating good quality menu, using actual plates instead of single use plastic, bench seating such that singles would feel comfortable dining there, tap water on tap, self serve with trays. You can find something like this in shopping malls, but often a wide menu instead of a rotating menu, so failing to scale and thus falling behind with quality
- angmarsbane 3y ago
  Poor people also often don't have cooking training. We used to teach basic cooking skills in public school but that's fallen to the wayside. If you grew up in a home where you weren't taught to cook (common in working poor households) you didn't learn there either.

somewhereoutth 3y ago

Time - Cost - Quality Pick two. So you can have fast, cheap, but low quality food ('fast food'), or slow, cheap, good quality food (cooking at home), or fast, expensive, high quality food (decent restaurant). By time I would also include mental overhead required, i.e. thinking about cooking. Unfortunately poor people often have neither the money or the time to choose quality. The daft thing is that cooking individually, or indeed to order in a restaurant, is very inefficient. In fact it is possible to win on all 3, but this requires a communal style cafeteria as would be found in offices, schools, the military etc. Wouldn't it be great if such cafeterias were available to the general public, with a limited but rotating good quality menu, using actual plates instead of single use plastic, bench seating such that singles would feel comfortable dining there, tap water on tap, self serve with trays. You can find something like this in shopping malls, but often a wide menu instead of a rotating menu, so failing to scale and thus falling behind with quality

angmarsbane 3y ago
Poor people also often don't have cooking training. We used to teach basic cooking skills in public school but that's fallen to the wayside. If you grew up in a home where you weren't taught to cook (common in working poor households) you didn't learn there either.