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According to https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-replacement https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-replacement battery replacement for the

by g232089 3y ago

According to https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-replacement https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-replacement battery replacement for the iPhone 6s which came out 7 years ago is $ 69.

KeplerBoy 3y ago
which is about what an iPhone 6s is worth. Repairing such an old phone is not worth it. The sweet spot would be putting a new battery into a 3 year old phone to get another 3 years out of it.
- nsriv 3y ago
  The value judgment of "not worth it" is relative to perceived improvement in getting a new phone, but for many people the judgment is "can I get a new phone for $69?" Outside of carrier subsidies in the US, that's still not possible.
  - KeplerBoy 3y ago
    But you can get a better phone with great battery life for 250$. Motorola and many other manufacturers sell perfectly usable devices with 5000 mAh batteries for that price.
    - HansHamster 3y ago
      And you can get an even better phone by spending 900$! /s
    - llbeansandrice 3y ago
      Why would you switch platforms, form factors, OSs, etc. for +4x the cost of a battery in the ecosystem you already know?
      - KeplerBoy 3y ago
        because that iphone 6s is EOL no matter the battery. If you don't want to drop the money for a recent-ish iPhone you have to switch. Not that 1000$ are a bad deal for an iPhone that will easily last you 4+ years.
    - jl6 3y ago
      $250 for a new phone that has some more modern features, but is still "low-end". versus $69 to keep a premium-at-the-time iPhone 6S alive.
- buran77 3y ago
  Smartphones started hitting the same plateau of "good enough" performance that PCs hit years ago, where today's phone hardware is more than adequate for years to come. Going forward it would become more and more advantageous to keep old phones going by replacing the one consumable component. The biggest difference from PCs is that you're still locked into whatever OS the phone came with so when the OS gets artificially bloated there's little recourse, no lightweight OS that just works and can keep the phone going. So 7 years of updates would be fine, maybe with one battery swap in the middle, as long as Google starts paying a bit of attention to their phones' quality assurance and control.
  - eternityforest 3y ago
    Not just one component, the flash memory doesn't last forever, and it's so unnecessarily small these days that it's almost more of a limiting factor than CPU and RAM. I'd personally like to see swappable storage and mandatory external SD card support. We could probably get to 15 years with current phone tech, unless they invent something really revolutionary that makes everyone want to upgrade.
    - KeplerBoy 3y ago
      15 years is a really, really long time even with Moore's law being dead. The ios AppStore launched pretty much exactly 15 years ago and everything has changed since then. Quick reminder what we had 15 years ago: a single camera on the back, 128 MB ram and samsung processors in the iphone.
      - kelnos 3y ago
        What we had 15 years ago vs. today is not a good predictor of the level of change we're going to have over the next 15 years. Especially when we're talking about something that was a brand new product category and brand new technology 15 years ago. I know people who are still perfectly happy with 7+-year-old iPhones. The limiting factor for many people is not processor speed or RAM or storage space, but the lack of OS updates (especially security updates). (Certainly those other things are limiting factors for some people, but I don't think it's anywhere near as common as it is for the HN crowd. And the storage space issue can be solved with a microSD card slot, which, sadly, few phones include these days.)
- g232089 3y ago
  Sure, that's the iPhone 12, and it costs $ 99 to replace the battery.
  - SirMaster 3y ago
    From Apple directly. It's usually $69 from an Apple authorized repair shop which uses the same parts.
- sho_hn 3y ago
  If the 6s works fine otherwise for the application and the carbon footprint of manufacturing its replacement is higher, sure it's worth it.

KeplerBoy 3y ago

which is about what an iPhone 6s is worth. Repairing such an old phone is not worth it. The sweet spot would be putting a new battery into a 3 year old phone to get another 3 years out of it.

nsriv 3y ago
The value judgment of "not worth it" is relative to perceived improvement in getting a new phone, but for many people the judgment is "can I get a new phone for $69?" Outside of carrier subsidies in the US, that's still not possible.
- KeplerBoy 3y ago
  But you can get a better phone with great battery life for 250$. Motorola and many other manufacturers sell perfectly usable devices with 5000 mAh batteries for that price.
  - HansHamster 3y ago
    And you can get an even better phone by spending 900$! /s
  - llbeansandrice 3y ago
    Why would you switch platforms, form factors, OSs, etc. for +4x the cost of a battery in the ecosystem you already know?
    - KeplerBoy 3y ago
      because that iphone 6s is EOL no matter the battery. If you don't want to drop the money for a recent-ish iPhone you have to switch. Not that 1000$ are a bad deal for an iPhone that will easily last you 4+ years.
  - jl6 3y ago
    $250 for a new phone that has some more modern features, but is still "low-end". versus $69 to keep a premium-at-the-time iPhone 6S alive.
buran77 3y ago
Smartphones started hitting the same plateau of "good enough" performance that PCs hit years ago, where today's phone hardware is more than adequate for years to come. Going forward it would become more and more advantageous to keep old phones going by replacing the one consumable component. The biggest difference from PCs is that you're still locked into whatever OS the phone came with so when the OS gets artificially bloated there's little recourse, no lightweight OS that just works and can keep the phone going. So 7 years of updates would be fine, maybe with one battery swap in the middle, as long as Google starts paying a bit of attention to their phones' quality assurance and control.
- eternityforest 3y ago
  Not just one component, the flash memory doesn't last forever, and it's so unnecessarily small these days that it's almost more of a limiting factor than CPU and RAM. I'd personally like to see swappable storage and mandatory external SD card support. We could probably get to 15 years with current phone tech, unless they invent something really revolutionary that makes everyone want to upgrade.
  - KeplerBoy 3y ago
    15 years is a really, really long time even with Moore's law being dead. The ios AppStore launched pretty much exactly 15 years ago and everything has changed since then. Quick reminder what we had 15 years ago: a single camera on the back, 128 MB ram and samsung processors in the iphone.
    - kelnos 3y ago
      What we had 15 years ago vs. today is not a good predictor of the level of change we're going to have over the next 15 years. Especially when we're talking about something that was a brand new product category and brand new technology 15 years ago. I know people who are still perfectly happy with 7+-year-old iPhones. The limiting factor for many people is not processor speed or RAM or storage space, but the lack of OS updates (especially security updates). (Certainly those other things are limiting factors for some people, but I don't think it's anywhere near as common as it is for the HN crowd. And the storage space issue can be solved with a microSD card slot, which, sadly, few phones include these days.)
g232089 3y ago
Sure, that's the iPhone 12, and it costs $ 99 to replace the battery.
- SirMaster 3y ago
  From Apple directly. It's usually $69 from an Apple authorized repair shop which uses the same parts.
sho_hn 3y ago
If the 6s works fine otherwise for the application and the carbon footprint of manufacturing its replacement is higher, sure it's worth it.