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Students should have the right to be shown exactly where and why texts are flagged. Much of the snake oil will disappear pretty quickly if the solutions are req

Students should have the right to be shown exactly where and why texts are flagged. Much of the snake oil will disappear pretty quickly if the solutions are required to provide any form of proof. It's would be funny, if it also wasn't so sad, that the point is that the students need to prove that they did the work, while shitty software can flag their work as being plagiarism or AI generated while providing no proof.

onemoresoop 3y ago
Sounds like a nightmare is about to start for kids, parents, schools, teachers and so on. Would be easily solved by going back to oral examinations, paper and pen in class essays...
- pierat 3y ago
  Or better yet, get rid of all HOME-work. Do it all inclass. We train children and up to adulthood that encroaching on time for self is acceptable, and its absolutely not. I remember asshole teachers giving out essay homeworks during christmas breaks and similar, because "we needed to be busy". No wonder why wage theft is the biggest retail theft we have - those utter lack of boundaries are eroded the moment we set foot in schools. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/owed-employers-face-little-accountability-for-wage-theft/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/owed-employers-face-little-acco...
  - em-bee 3y ago
    at university level that's not really going to work. you have lectures and assignments and maybe meetings to discuss assignments or present work. there are no more classes like in school. at least there weren't in my university. you are also missing one important aspect: work is usually 40 hours a week. full time study should be 40 hours too. but at least where i come from, you generally have less than 20 hours of lectures and TA meetings, etc. so you are absolutely expected to spend the other 20 hours in your room or in the library working on assignments. that is not encroaching on your time. there is only a problem if you spend more time on assignments causing you to work/study more than 40 hours in a week

onemoresoop 3y ago

Sounds like a nightmare is about to start for kids, parents, schools, teachers and so on. Would be easily solved by going back to oral examinations, paper and pen in class essays...

pierat 3y ago
Or better yet, get rid of all HOME-work. Do it all inclass. We train children and up to adulthood that encroaching on time for self is acceptable, and its absolutely not. I remember asshole teachers giving out essay homeworks during christmas breaks and similar, because "we needed to be busy". No wonder why wage theft is the biggest retail theft we have - those utter lack of boundaries are eroded the moment we set foot in schools. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/owed-employers-face-little-accountability-for-wage-theft/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/owed-employers-face-little-acco...
- em-bee 3y ago
  at university level that's not really going to work. you have lectures and assignments and maybe meetings to discuss assignments or present work. there are no more classes like in school. at least there weren't in my university. you are also missing one important aspect: work is usually 40 hours a week. full time study should be 40 hours too. but at least where i come from, you generally have less than 20 hours of lectures and TA meetings, etc. so you are absolutely expected to spend the other 20 hours in your room or in the library working on assignments. that is not encroaching on your time. there is only a problem if you spend more time on assignments causing you to work/study more than 40 hours in a week