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What kind of child wouldn't want to get up at an unreasonable early hour, to go to a building designed with factory work in mind, to memorize debatably worthwhi

What kind of child wouldn't want to get up at an unreasonable early hour, to go to a building designed with factory work in mind, to memorize debatably worthwhile information, in a suffocating environment, around other children that they may or may not get along with? It's so strange to think that they would want to instead learn online, when that's not only possible, but feasible. Let's find someone/something to blame, and insist on shoveling massive sums of cash into a new football field. That will fix this horrible, horrible improvement to their personal lives.

Auracle 3y ago
Honestly, if they just started school later than would probably help more than any other factor. It blows my mind that people still don’t realize the teenagers are biologically wired to go to bed significantly later than everyone else. Just the other week I was at a combo preschool/parent education thing and they were talking about sleep. The educator complained about her teenagers not wanting to go bed at 9pm and blamed it on screens. That’s like telling adults they need to be in bed at 5pm or earlier. Can you force yourself to adapt? Kind of. Is it anywhere near ideal? Hell no.
- registeredcorn 3y ago
  Pretty much! I do think that there should be a certain kind of need to learn how to wake up early when needed, but in my opinion, learning that skill is not something that should be insisted upon on a daily basis throughout an adolescents life. That goes doubly when the primary reasoning comes down to, "Well I did it when I was their age, so they should have to do it too!" There are other practical reasons that could even be helpful in this regard, too: Imagine for a moment a case where there are fewer school buses on the road (due to at least an option to Learn From Home (LFH)), and when they are on the road, it's not during peak commuter times. It's something that could help with things like emissions, and the overall safety of students and drivers. The idea of both morning commuters and school buses traveling around at the same peak hours reminds me a lot of how Moving Day [1] in NYC used to work, a breathtakingly stupid tradition, which apparently was only finally culled due to a mixture of labor shortage due to WWII, rent control, and a shortage of housing. I do realize that part of the reason why schools start as early as they do is to try and avoid some amount of that commuter traffic, but if that is the primary reason, it then raises the even stranger question, "Why then, are we putting the ease of commuters above a sane sleep schedule of the youth, when their physical presence in an antiquated building is on shaky grounds in the first place...?" Heck, we could take it a step further and ask even more pointed questions, "What sense does it make for children to be transferred to the care of complete strangers, who then are legally obligated to care for their safety on a short-term basis, when that same child could instead remain at home in the care of their own parents?" It just seems like there's plenty of reasons why children should be able to avoid this dogs breakfast of an in-person educational system, when there are glaring and obvious alternatives. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Day_(New_York_City) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Day_(New_York_City)

Auracle 3y ago

Honestly, if they just started school later than would probably help more than any other factor. It blows my mind that people still don’t realize the teenagers are biologically wired to go to bed significantly later than everyone else. Just the other week I was at a combo preschool/parent education thing and they were talking about sleep. The educator complained about her teenagers not wanting to go bed at 9pm and blamed it on screens. That’s like telling adults they need to be in bed at 5pm or earlier. Can you force yourself to adapt? Kind of. Is it anywhere near ideal? Hell no.

registeredcorn 3y ago
Pretty much! I do think that there should be a certain kind of need to learn how to wake up early when needed, but in my opinion, learning that skill is not something that should be insisted upon on a daily basis throughout an adolescents life. That goes doubly when the primary reasoning comes down to, "Well I did it when I was their age, so they should have to do it too!" There are other practical reasons that could even be helpful in this regard, too: Imagine for a moment a case where there are fewer school buses on the road (due to at least an option to Learn From Home (LFH)), and when they are on the road, it's not during peak commuter times. It's something that could help with things like emissions, and the overall safety of students and drivers. The idea of both morning commuters and school buses traveling around at the same peak hours reminds me a lot of how Moving Day [1] in NYC used to work, a breathtakingly stupid tradition, which apparently was only finally culled due to a mixture of labor shortage due to WWII, rent control, and a shortage of housing. I do realize that part of the reason why schools start as early as they do is to try and avoid some amount of that commuter traffic, but if that is the primary reason, it then raises the even stranger question, "Why then, are we putting the ease of commuters above a sane sleep schedule of the youth, when their physical presence in an antiquated building is on shaky grounds in the first place...?" Heck, we could take it a step further and ask even more pointed questions, "What sense does it make for children to be transferred to the care of complete strangers, who then are legally obligated to care for their safety on a short-term basis, when that same child could instead remain at home in the care of their own parents?" It just seems like there's plenty of reasons why children should be able to avoid this dogs breakfast of an in-person educational system, when there are glaring and obvious alternatives. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Day_(New_York_City) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Day_(New_York_City)