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This argument can be made about any US digital tool that stores data. I'm sure >99.9% of NHS employees use Apple and Google Android phones, which likely have ac

by maeil 3y ago

This argument can be made about any US digital tool that stores data. I'm sure >99.9% of NHS employees use Apple and Google Android phones, which likely have access to their emails. Office365? Is there even a reasonable UK office suite? Seems to me like both emails and Office docs will contain plenty of stuff about patients. It might be a good idea for them to look for UK companies first but using Palantir or not is unlikely to materially change anything. To think that when push comes to shove Microsoft or Google (see Nest for one example) is less aligned to the US government than Palantir seems naive, if that's the fundamental reason you have in mind.

jen20 3y ago
And you’d be wrong on almost all counts. The NHS runs on the N3 network, and runs its own email servers. Emailing outside of the organization about patients is a sackable offence. As for mobile devices: I seriously doubt unless security has gone to shit in the last few years that people have access to clinical email on personal devices. If they have the devices will be under MDM. I’d rather they moved everything to Linux of course, but placing trust in Microsoft is a hell of a lot better than placing trust in Palantir. Microsoft have reputation to lose. The reputation of Palantir among its core audience is improved by misdeeds.
- maeil 3y ago
  > And you’d be wrong on almost all counts. The NHS runs on the N3 network, and runs its own email servers. Emailing outside of the organization about patients is a sackable offence. In that case I'd assume Palantir's software too will run on the N3 network. This might well be a big reason for the choice for them, Im sure they have plenty of experience with such arragements given all the military contracts. > I’d rather they moved everything to Linux of course, but placing trust in Microsoft is a hell of a lot better than placing trust in Palantir. Microsoft have reputation to lose. The reputation of Palantir among its core audience is improved by misdeeds. The core audience of Palantir is their customers, who are very unhappy when they get into the news negatively. They're a big business, not an influencer trying to keep their Twitter fanboys happy. Like you're implying the NHS is almost certainly running Windows (or MacOS for that matter) everywhere and neither did you mention their Office suite. MS and Palantir are very comparably tied to the US , which was the point brought up that I was responding to.

by maeil 3y ago

jen20 3y ago

And you’d be wrong on almost all counts. The NHS runs on the N3 network, and runs its own email servers. Emailing outside of the organization about patients is a sackable offence. As for mobile devices: I seriously doubt unless security has gone to shit in the last few years that people have access to clinical email on personal devices. If they have the devices will be under MDM. I’d rather they moved everything to Linux of course, but placing trust in Microsoft is a hell of a lot better than placing trust in Palantir. Microsoft have reputation to lose. The reputation of Palantir among its core audience is improved by misdeeds.

maeil 3y ago
> And you’d be wrong on almost all counts. The NHS runs on the N3 network, and runs its own email servers. Emailing outside of the organization about patients is a sackable offence. In that case I'd assume Palantir's software too will run on the N3 network. This might well be a big reason for the choice for them, Im sure they have plenty of experience with such arragements given all the military contracts. > I’d rather they moved everything to Linux of course, but placing trust in Microsoft is a hell of a lot better than placing trust in Palantir. Microsoft have reputation to lose. The reputation of Palantir among its core audience is improved by misdeeds. The core audience of Palantir is their customers, who are very unhappy when they get into the news negatively. They're a big business, not an influencer trying to keep their Twitter fanboys happy. Like you're implying the NHS is almost certainly running Windows (or MacOS for that matter) everywhere and neither did you mention their Office suite. MS and Palantir are very comparably tied to the US , which was the point brought up that I was responding to.