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It’s not the outrage the object is obsolete. It’s the outrage it’s obsolete while making marketing material like the ‘Mother Earth’ movie. There’s a huge disco
by whywhywhywhy 3y ago
It’s not the outrage the object is obsolete. It’s the outrage it’s obsolete while making marketing material like the ‘Mother Earth’ movie.
There’s a huge disconnect with what’s being said and the day to day actions.
Bringing disposable objects like this and AirPods into the world is environmentally abhorrent. Which you know I’m actually fine with for the trade off but just don’t lecture me about how much you care when I can see with my own eyes you don’t.
- tyingq 3y agoThe waste part, though, is the innards and bezel. Most of the weight/volume is 18k gold.
- pohl 3y agoElaborate on this disconnect, because I’m not seeing it. How is recycling the gold any worse than recycling the frame of an obsolete aluminum watch?
- Closi 3y agoIf anything, I assume the gold is much more likely to get recycled.
- signal11 3y agoThis has to be taken in the context of electronics’ lifetimes. A smartwatch that was supported for 8 years is pretty great. Who’s doing better? But if competitors do better, that raises the bar for Apple and is a net benefit for customers. So yeah, Samsung, Google — here’s your opportunity to outshine Apple. (Google’s already making noises about supporting newer Pixel phones for 8 years, and have committed to supporting some Chromebooks for 10 years. This is a good thing and I’d like to see more manufacturers get interested in offering longer periods of support.) For now, I suspect Apple will say they’ll be recycle your watch so the materials are not “wasted”.
- swader999 3y agoNaw, it's the tires.
- throwaway10965 3y agoSo how should a company that makes tech that people want while being as environmentally friendly as possible present itself? What other company is more environmentally conservative while making the tech that people want (for example Xiaomi, Huawei, etc) than Apple? "Don't make it" is not a good answer. People buy it, so someone will make it. And I'm happy that Apple educates their customers about the environmental impact.
- yccs27 3y ago"People buy it, so someone will make it" doesn't apply when they're at the size of Apple. They absolutely make things that no one else could make if they didn't.
- throwaway10965 3y agoXiaomi, Huawei and Samsung certainly could, and probably more.
- tpush 3y agoApple creates the want in the first place or amplifies existing want. That is what ultimately drives consumption-based pollution, so they are directly to blame.
- throwaway10965 3y agoI disagree completely. People wanted this for a long time, now it's available, that's it. People usually claim that Apple didn't invent anything new...
- whywhywhywhy 3y ago>So how should a company that makes tech that people want while being as environmentally friendly as possible present itself? Not with self indulgent high budget folly like ‘Mother Nature’ I never said don’t make the objects I actually said I’m fine with how abhorrent a 3 plastic battery coffins that are AirPods are for how good the experience is. Just don’t make marketing material like ‘Mother Earth’ when you’re shipping those products.
- aziaziazi 3y agoMany commercials works by saying stuff far from the reality. Can’t help thinking of those gigantic EV advertised everyday and everywhere as climate saving wands. « Change the world, by X or Y » (no pun intended).
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