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> The general idea of training LLMS on forum archives seems promising though! I chuckled. Reddit data is THE gold standard for training something such as an RH

> The general idea of training LLMS on forum archives seems promising though! I chuckled. Reddit data is THE gold standard for training something such as an RHCF model, properly up voted/downvoted data through an API. FWIW I'm sure a lot of ChatGPT data is trained there.

jorvi 3y ago
Vote communities have a horrible reputation in terms of upvoting good stuff. Echo chambers reign supreme.
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
  Would you say they are the best tools in the worst hands?
  - jorvi 3y ago
    Yes, if we were homo rationalus (or if we are enforced to vote properly), voting systems work great. "tweakers.net" does something very interesting. They allow you to vote 'freely', but if you don't adhere to their voting rules repeatedly, you will have your voting rights locked away. Their current rules are: -1 = flamebait, troll, etc. +0 = irrelevant, inaccurate +1 = relevant +2 = informative, helpful +3 = must read comment If you constantly give +3's to mediocre comments because they agree with your bias, you will get a warning. Similar with -1 to dissenting opinions. After one warning, your vote rights are locked away and you will have to write a good justification on getting them back. To give an example on why voting sucks here for example (yes, I know) and it will sound a bit like sour grapes: I made a comment on how Sonos is great, because their voice assistant processes your voice completely locally. I get berated and told it is not private because you need an account (the EU would fine Sonos severely if they claim local processing but do not do so). I get downvoted to -2 (!), whereas the completely incorrect comment gets sent to +3. Similarly, another commentor says Sonos has horrible software lifetimes. However, they often update their products for ~10 years, which is a better support timeline than even Apple. I'm sent to 0 twice, incorrect commenter goes to +2. With the Tweakers system, Dang would swoop in and annihilate the voting rights of anyone who upvoted these people. Alas, HN loves being a bandwagony echo chamber, so the pain continues :)

jorvi 3y ago

Vote communities have a horrible reputation in terms of upvoting good stuff. Echo chambers reign supreme.

WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
Would you say they are the best tools in the worst hands?
- jorvi 3y ago
  Yes, if we were homo rationalus (or if we are enforced to vote properly), voting systems work great. "tweakers.net" does something very interesting. They allow you to vote 'freely', but if you don't adhere to their voting rules repeatedly, you will have your voting rights locked away. Their current rules are: -1 = flamebait, troll, etc. +0 = irrelevant, inaccurate +1 = relevant +2 = informative, helpful +3 = must read comment If you constantly give +3's to mediocre comments because they agree with your bias, you will get a warning. Similar with -1 to dissenting opinions. After one warning, your vote rights are locked away and you will have to write a good justification on getting them back. To give an example on why voting sucks here for example (yes, I know) and it will sound a bit like sour grapes: I made a comment on how Sonos is great, because their voice assistant processes your voice completely locally. I get berated and told it is not private because you need an account (the EU would fine Sonos severely if they claim local processing but do not do so). I get downvoted to -2 (!), whereas the completely incorrect comment gets sent to +3. Similarly, another commentor says Sonos has horrible software lifetimes. However, they often update their products for ~10 years, which is a better support timeline than even Apple. I'm sent to 0 twice, incorrect commenter goes to +2. With the Tweakers system, Dang would swoop in and annihilate the voting rights of anyone who upvoted these people. Alas, HN loves being a bandwagony echo chamber, so the pain continues :)