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UK-born Gen X here. We entirely expected to be nuked before we were 40. If millenials can have PTSD from climate change [0], then we had PTSD from the cold war.

UK-born Gen X here. We entirely expected to be nuked before we were 40. If millenials can have PTSD from climate change [0], then we had PTSD from the cold war. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/20/climate-emergency-anxiety-threapists https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/20/climate-...

seoulmetro 3y ago
They can't have PTSD from climate change. Unless you want PTSD to just mean "uncomfort". In which case, everyone has PTSD. But then what does disorder mean if it's normal?
- marcus_holmes 3y ago
  I agree, but apparently PTSD from climate change is a thing.
  - tremon 3y ago
    Doesn't the P in PTSD require climate change to be over before it can be classified as such? Shouldn't it be called Ongoing or Anticipatory rather than Post?
    - marcus_holmes 3y ago
      true. Is the danger from nukes done now?
  - seoulmetro 3y ago
    Lots of fake ideas are "things".
- truculent 3y ago
  Seems weird to play semantics with what is, as I understand it, a collection of symptoms. You wouldn’t gotcha the flu because it’s not actually caused by the stars’ influence, would you?
gvurrdon 3y ago
Whether or not it counts as PTSD, I remember it being a stressful time, causing worry that has persisted through to the present. There were the films, of course; When the Wind Blows and The Day After are films I watched (the former was also available as a graphic novel IIRC). I'm not sure about Threads, but I definitely saw The War Game (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Game). The scene with firemen trying to put out a firestorm and being suffocated has stuck in my head. The Protect and Survive booklet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protect_and_Survive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protect_and_Survive) was around to instruct families in how to construct temporary makeshift shelters against nuclear blast. I recall such planning, including watching a film explaining how long the various Protect and Survive shelters might last at different distances from a blast ("The occupants of this shelter will be fine, for 6 seconds until the blast wave hits..." etc. etc). Military training at school (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Cadet_Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Cadet_Force) also involved, from time to time, lectures from liaison officers who would remind us of the odds against us in terms of land forces, and how long we might hold out before things went nuclear (should the Warsaw Pact have attacked NATO).
- marcus_holmes 3y ago
  this post gave me PTSD

seoulmetro 3y ago

They can't have PTSD from climate change. Unless you want PTSD to just mean "uncomfort". In which case, everyone has PTSD. But then what does disorder mean if it's normal?

marcus_holmes 3y ago
I agree, but apparently PTSD from climate change is a thing.
- tremon 3y ago
  Doesn't the P in PTSD require climate change to be over before it can be classified as such? Shouldn't it be called Ongoing or Anticipatory rather than Post?
  - marcus_holmes 3y ago
    true. Is the danger from nukes done now?
- seoulmetro 3y ago
  Lots of fake ideas are "things".
truculent 3y ago
Seems weird to play semantics with what is, as I understand it, a collection of symptoms. You wouldn’t gotcha the flu because it’s not actually caused by the stars’ influence, would you?

gvurrdon 3y ago

Whether or not it counts as PTSD, I remember it being a stressful time, causing worry that has persisted through to the present. There were the films, of course; When the Wind Blows and The Day After are films I watched (the former was also available as a graphic novel IIRC). I'm not sure about Threads, but I definitely saw The War Game (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Game). The scene with firemen trying to put out a firestorm and being suffocated has stuck in my head. The Protect and Survive booklet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protect_and_Survive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protect_and_Survive) was around to instruct families in how to construct temporary makeshift shelters against nuclear blast. I recall such planning, including watching a film explaining how long the various Protect and Survive shelters might last at different distances from a blast ("The occupants of this shelter will be fine, for 6 seconds until the blast wave hits..." etc. etc). Military training at school (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Cadet_Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Cadet_Force) also involved, from time to time, lectures from liaison officers who would remind us of the odds against us in terms of land forces, and how long we might hold out before things went nuclear (should the Warsaw Pact have attacked NATO).

marcus_holmes 3y ago
this post gave me PTSD