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This is different because they are physically limited in number of houses they can toss per day, plus said activity is quite more observable to targets.

psunavy03 3y ago
The number of warrants that can be served has nothing to do with the price of beer. Either a judge has approved the warrant based on probable cause presented to him/her by the police, or they haven't. If the police could hypothetically toss every house in the country twice a day and once on Sundays, that has precisely nothing to do with anything. So long as the only houses they DO toss are ones where a judge has reviewed the evidence, and determined that there is probable cause that tossing the house will turn up fruits or instrumentalities of a crime. Capability to do a thing has nothing to do with approval to do a thing under the law or ethics. I'm fully capable of being a (very bad) male prostitute, but I refrain from doing that for many obvious moral and legal reasons.
- autoexec 3y ago
  > So long as the only houses they DO toss are ones where a judge has reviewed the evidence, and determined that there is probable cause that tossing the house will turn up fruits You have a lot more faith than I do. I'd bet it's a lot more like a rubber stamp with basically zero review, assuming they bother with warrants at all (https://petapixel.com/2022/07/27/googles-nest-will-provide-data-to-police-without-a-warrant/ https://petapixel.com/2022/07/27/googles-nest-will-provide-d... https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/new-records-detail-dhs-purchase-and-use-of-vast-quantities-of-cell-phone-location-data https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/new-records-det... https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2021-03-24/federal-agencies-subpoena-google-personal-information https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2021-03-24... https://experiencedcriminallawyers.com/what-private-information-will-google-give-cops-without-a-warrant https://experiencedcriminallawyers.com/what-private-informat...)
- watwut 3y ago
  > So long as the only houses they DO toss are ones where a judge has reviewed the evidence, I think that actual process is that judge agrees to anything cops ask for, not evidence review is going on.
  - psunavy03 3y ago
    Is this based on your JD or your personal experience litigating search warrants, or just internet BS?

psunavy03 3y ago

The number of warrants that can be served has nothing to do with the price of beer. Either a judge has approved the warrant based on probable cause presented to him/her by the police, or they haven't. If the police could hypothetically toss every house in the country twice a day and once on Sundays, that has precisely nothing to do with anything. So long as the only houses they DO toss are ones where a judge has reviewed the evidence, and determined that there is probable cause that tossing the house will turn up fruits or instrumentalities of a crime. Capability to do a thing has nothing to do with approval to do a thing under the law or ethics. I'm fully capable of being a (very bad) male prostitute, but I refrain from doing that for many obvious moral and legal reasons.

autoexec 3y ago
> So long as the only houses they DO toss are ones where a judge has reviewed the evidence, and determined that there is probable cause that tossing the house will turn up fruits You have a lot more faith than I do. I'd bet it's a lot more like a rubber stamp with basically zero review, assuming they bother with warrants at all (https://petapixel.com/2022/07/27/googles-nest-will-provide-data-to-police-without-a-warrant/ https://petapixel.com/2022/07/27/googles-nest-will-provide-d... https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/new-records-detail-dhs-purchase-and-use-of-vast-quantities-of-cell-phone-location-data https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/new-records-det... https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2021-03-24/federal-agencies-subpoena-google-personal-information https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2021-03-24... https://experiencedcriminallawyers.com/what-private-information-will-google-give-cops-without-a-warrant https://experiencedcriminallawyers.com/what-private-informat...)
watwut 3y ago
> So long as the only houses they DO toss are ones where a judge has reviewed the evidence, I think that actual process is that judge agrees to anything cops ask for, not evidence review is going on.
- psunavy03 3y ago
  Is this based on your JD or your personal experience litigating search warrants, or just internet BS?