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It's never occurred to me to think of Oracle as being a company concerned with any of those things. It seems totally outside their character, everything they do
by nknight 15y ago
It's never occurred to me to think of Oracle as being a company concerned with any of those things. It seems totally outside their character, everything they do screams "huge, established customers only".
- mgkimsal 15y agoThe current crop of smaller companies and bootstrappers will evolve in to the next generation's "established" companies. No one is starting a company today with COBOL. How many are starting today with Java? Not rhetorical - I know some are - just wondering how this will play out over time...
- kamaal 15y agoThere are only three factors Java is getting used today. 1. 'Hiring the cheap programmer' factor. 2. 'The Oracle' factor. 3. 'The pointy haired boss' factor. And those are not awesome reasons to stay alive.
- mgkimsal 15y agoInteresting. I'm actually using Java on projects, but via Groovy. Others I know are coming from Ruby in to Clojure. So, "Java" as such isn't the direct factor, but JVM is a common one. Will it be enough to keep it from COBOL-status?
- kamaal 15y agoJVM based languages are totally different. I remember Bjarne Stroustrup telling Java isn't platform independent, Java is the platform. Meaning compiled C++ runs on processors directly, but compiled Java runs on JVM. So JVM becomes analogous to a processor. So comparing JVM based languages is like comparing languages directly compiled to a processor like a ARM processor. Future of JVM is different than future of Java. Just like future of C++ is different than future of pentium.