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I like processing, and the “p5.js” variant. Schiffman’s coding train videos and “nature of code” (version 2 any day now) are how I learned of it and are really

I like processing, and the “p5.js” variant. Schiffman’s coding train videos and “nature of code” (version 2 any day now) are how I learned of it and are really interesting and fun. https://github.com/nature-of-code https://github.com/nature-of-code I used p5.js to overlay some graphs on a photo I took which ended up in a coffee shop show. There is value to this and it seems a shame the foundation seems to be miss-managed. I’ve donated in the past and I’m going to have to look into it before doing so again.

abhgh 3y ago
Your comment prompted me to look up the Twitter/X thread. I had no idea that the Processing foundation was suffering from issues of mismanagement to this extent. It is sad to hear :(. I haven't used it for a long time, but I remember doing a few projects in 2007-2008 and appreciating the fact that this language existed. But I keep occasionally returning to it, even if that is the form of watching a random Daniel Shiffman video, e.g., [1], or looking up the gallery [2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JzDttgdILQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JzDttgdILQ [2] https://processing.org/examples https://processing.org/examples
- acomjean 3y ago
  I did some poking too. It seems like they were puttering along with some donations ($165000 in 2018, $275000 in 2020)[1]. 2021 all of sudden they got 10 million dollars..it was crypto donations from artists..[2]so who knows what it’s worth now, if they’ll see another windfall. I can see an organization being befuddled (they hired a finance person). [2] It makes sense a founder being upset the tech side isn’t getting more benefit. It’s not a good look. Hopefully they can manage it better. [1]https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460830259 https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460... The funding update article: “The majority of the donations in 2021 came from artists donating cryptocurrency to the Processing Foundation.” [2]https://medium.com/processing-foundation/processing-foundation-funding-update-94cddb25a3d9 https://medium.com/processing-foundation/processing-foundati...
  - ozr 3y ago
    And, of course, now they aren't accepting crypto anymore to reduce their environmental impact. Too much authority being given to people that aren't doing things.
    - thrown37291 3y ago
      They still have crypto wallets accepting donations, Tezos and Ethereum do not have environmental impact today. The blog post was written before the merge.
  - whywhywhywhy 3y ago
    > Hopefully they can manage it better. Why would I want them doing anything after seeing what they've done so far?
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    > It’s not a good look The look isn't the issue. The fundamental substance is what counts, and it seems terribly mismanaged to not spend most of this money on development and documentation, both of which scale extremely well.
  - jdboyd 3y ago
    That same document said their policy is to convert crypto to USD, so presumably they didn't suffer from later crashes.
ralusek 3y ago
I was about to say that Daniel Shiffman is the only person I sponsor on GitHub, but when I just went to check, I'm listed as a past sponsor: https://github.com/sponsors/shiffman https://github.com/sponsors/shiffman Do sponsorships lapse automatically? In any event, he's amazing and his videos are one of the best ways to get people into code. Very smart, excellent teacher, genuinely wants people to experiment and learn.
- modernerd 3y ago
  If you were paying with PayPal, GitHub dropped support in February. Subscriptions may stop for those who did not change payment method: https://github.blog/changelog/2023-01-23-github-sponsors-will-stop-supporting-paypal/ https://github.blog/changelog/2023-01-23-github-sponsors-wil...

abhgh 3y ago

Your comment prompted me to look up the Twitter/X thread. I had no idea that the Processing foundation was suffering from issues of mismanagement to this extent. It is sad to hear :(. I haven't used it for a long time, but I remember doing a few projects in 2007-2008 and appreciating the fact that this language existed. But I keep occasionally returning to it, even if that is the form of watching a random Daniel Shiffman video, e.g., [1], or looking up the gallery [2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JzDttgdILQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JzDttgdILQ [2] https://processing.org/examples https://processing.org/examples

acomjean 3y ago
I did some poking too. It seems like they were puttering along with some donations ($165000 in 2018, $275000 in 2020)[1]. 2021 all of sudden they got 10 million dollars..it was crypto donations from artists..[2]so who knows what it’s worth now, if they’ll see another windfall. I can see an organization being befuddled (they hired a finance person). [2] It makes sense a founder being upset the tech side isn’t getting more benefit. It’s not a good look. Hopefully they can manage it better. [1]https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460830259 https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460... The funding update article: “The majority of the donations in 2021 came from artists donating cryptocurrency to the Processing Foundation.” [2]https://medium.com/processing-foundation/processing-foundation-funding-update-94cddb25a3d9 https://medium.com/processing-foundation/processing-foundati...
- ozr 3y ago
  And, of course, now they aren't accepting crypto anymore to reduce their environmental impact. Too much authority being given to people that aren't doing things.
  - thrown37291 3y ago
    They still have crypto wallets accepting donations, Tezos and Ethereum do not have environmental impact today. The blog post was written before the merge.
- whywhywhywhy 3y ago
  > Hopefully they can manage it better. Why would I want them doing anything after seeing what they've done so far?
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  > It’s not a good look The look isn't the issue. The fundamental substance is what counts, and it seems terribly mismanaged to not spend most of this money on development and documentation, both of which scale extremely well.
- jdboyd 3y ago
  That same document said their policy is to convert crypto to USD, so presumably they didn't suffer from later crashes.

ralusek 3y ago

I was about to say that Daniel Shiffman is the only person I sponsor on GitHub, but when I just went to check, I'm listed as a past sponsor: https://github.com/sponsors/shiffman https://github.com/sponsors/shiffman Do sponsorships lapse automatically? In any event, he's amazing and his videos are one of the best ways to get people into code. Very smart, excellent teacher, genuinely wants people to experiment and learn.

modernerd 3y ago
If you were paying with PayPal, GitHub dropped support in February. Subscriptions may stop for those who did not change payment method: https://github.blog/changelog/2023-01-23-github-sponsors-will-stop-supporting-paypal/ https://github.blog/changelog/2023-01-23-github-sponsors-wil...