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They imprisoned ~2% of their adult population to get the gangs, effectively based purely on perceived membership. It would be equivalent to increasing US priso

They imprisoned ~2% of their adult population to get the gangs, effectively based purely on perceived membership. It would be equivalent to increasing US prison population ~4x. [1] It’s not really a serious argument in the American context https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/27/el-salvador-nayib-bukele-gangs-mass-trials https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/27/el-salvador-na...

shadowtree 3y ago
Which is why citizens in the US will keep getting harmed and killed at a rate unheard of in developed countries. Just today: https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/tennessee-businessman-fatally-shot-by-career-criminal-on-his-way-to-high-school-reunion/amp/ https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/tennessee-businessman-fatally-... Father of 3 kids, murdered by a career criminal. Over 60(!) prior arrests, wide range of violent crime, never served more than 6 months. You guys have no solutions, no alternatives. Nothing besides empty platitudes of "social justice" and "serious arguments". Bill Clinton briefly course corrected, three strike laws and such ... and crime started plummeting. As if banning leaded gasoline was the reason, haha. But then, social justice reared its head and here we are. Crime and murder is coming for even the most bleeding heart socialists: https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/disturbing-video-shows-moment-beloved-activist-poet-is-randomly-stabbed-to-death-in-front-of-girlfriend-on-nyc-street/amp/ https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/disturbing-video-shows-moment-... Watch what the consequence of this total idiocy of soft on crime does to society. Watch a fellow liberal getting stabbed to death. As if this is normal in a civilized country.
- joenot443 3y ago
  FWIW, you’re entirely correct and I don’t expect things to get better. Ryan Carson’s story is an especially tragic one. I don’t know how many more times this needs to happen before people accept that something’s gone deeply wrong.

shadowtree 3y ago

Which is why citizens in the US will keep getting harmed and killed at a rate unheard of in developed countries. Just today: https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/tennessee-businessman-fatally-shot-by-career-criminal-on-his-way-to-high-school-reunion/amp/ https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/tennessee-businessman-fatally-... Father of 3 kids, murdered by a career criminal. Over 60(!) prior arrests, wide range of violent crime, never served more than 6 months. You guys have no solutions, no alternatives. Nothing besides empty platitudes of "social justice" and "serious arguments". Bill Clinton briefly course corrected, three strike laws and such ... and crime started plummeting. As if banning leaded gasoline was the reason, haha. But then, social justice reared its head and here we are. Crime and murder is coming for even the most bleeding heart socialists: https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/disturbing-video-shows-moment-beloved-activist-poet-is-randomly-stabbed-to-death-in-front-of-girlfriend-on-nyc-street/amp/ https://nypost.com/2023/10/03/disturbing-video-shows-moment-... Watch what the consequence of this total idiocy of soft on crime does to society. Watch a fellow liberal getting stabbed to death. As if this is normal in a civilized country.

joenot443 3y ago
FWIW, you’re entirely correct and I don’t expect things to get better. Ryan Carson’s story is an especially tragic one. I don’t know how many more times this needs to happen before people accept that something’s gone deeply wrong.