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Gatekeeping concerts now are we? I think the Sphere is awesome and I'm sure can accentuate great shows.

• Tao3300 3y ago
  It would be gatekeeping if it was some flashy new upstart band of twenty-somethings. U2 has been around for about 900 years now. This is "old guy lamenting what the other old guys have done" which is something we need more of in general.
  • rbanffy 3y ago
    The Sphere is just a tool. People will learn to use it, and figure out what works and what doesn’t.
    • listenallyall 3y ago
      The whole concept of music as a visual medium is rather limiting. MTV was fucking awesome for little while, then it became entirely routine with maybe one cool new video every couple of months, then it became pretty boring, then it simply stopped showing videos because nobody cared anymore.
      • rbanffy 3y ago
        Does MTV still show music? I would expect a smaller repertoire considering audiovisual production is a lot more expensive than just audio.
      • fatfingerd 3y ago
        Is that really down to the medium? I thought rights issues of music videos meant they preferred cheap content they totally owned. I.e. Beavis and Butthead couldn't release complete DVDs with videos implying MTV was excluded from revenue streams until they made non-music video shows.
        • listenallyall 3y ago
          What could be cheaper than broadcasting content that other people produced, at zero cost to you? Problem is, just showing videos back to back like a radio station doesn't equal ratings, and no ratings means no advertising revenue.
          • fatfingerd 3y ago
            They were addicted to the big budget videos and glorifying production costs at a time when special effects were still very expensive, but the benefit to doing that was inherently dropping since any artist that could expect millions more in increasingly cheaper CD sales had alternatives to an expensive Ad/giveaway. That doesn't answer any question for me of whether the video medium was good or bad, clearly MTV's monopoly meant the only way to release videos was an economical disaster.
      • addicted 3y ago
        There’s an interesting case study here. Most Indian pop music comes from movies so nearly every popular song comes with a music video at no cost. It would be interesting to see what the breakdown of people who watch the music videos vs only listen to audio is.
    • singleshot_ 3y ago
      It is pure tragedy GWAR did not survive long enough to see this technology made available.
      • Tao3300 3y ago
        I don't think they broke up, just that Dave Brockie / Oderus Urungus kicked the bucket. I remember really missing the cultural impact of GWAR in 2016. Edit to add: they're currently on tour! There are no more members left from the original lineup, but the original Jizmak da Gusha, the current Balsac the Jaws of Death, and the current Beefcake the Mighty have held such considerable tenure that they establish a strong persistent core.
      • rinnith 3y ago
        GWAR is still around they released a studio album last year and they're still doing live shows.
  • dnissley 3y ago
    > This is "old guy lamenting what the other old guys have done" which is something we need more of in general. Why do we need more of this? There's literally no shortage of it -- an eternal firehose of this sort of content in all actuality. We could do one of those listicles where someone takes a headline like "no one wants to work anymore" and posts examples of it going back to the invention of the printing press.
    • Tao3300 3y ago
      Cool. Glad you're more tuned into that cohort's capacity for reflection. I don't seek it out, so what I see is usually more of the "old guy lamenting what younger people do" variety. But that's great. Sorry you read too much of it. Maybe take a break?
• addicted 3y ago
  “Gatekeeping concerts” - What exactly is this supposed to mean? Are we not supposed to post our thoughts on the internet anymore? And maybe there’s an argument to go gentle on a small upstart effort but this is a billion dollar stadium.
  • Eisenstein 3y ago
    Just go down another level to 'gatekeeping gatekeeping'.