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> Also this is the type of stuff where Apple would make sure the end user would not have to worry about it Some of the earlier macbooks with USB-C had overheat

> Also this is the type of stuff where Apple would make sure the end user would not have to worry about it Some of the earlier macbooks with USB-C had overheating problems if the USB-C power cable was connected to any of the ports on the left side.

viraptor 3y ago
Not just overheating, but overheating the chips to the level where they put extra performance stress on the kernel for some weird reasons. Basically I was seeing 70% CPU usage plugged in on the left and 20% usage on the right with the same task. MacOS has many issues like that, the "Apple cares more about users/design" idea is a bad meme at this point.
- AnthonyMouse 3y ago
  It has been like this for years. Apple does some things well, and there are reasons to like those things, but their following is overzealous to the point of kneeling before what is, fundamentally, still a for-profit corporation. I feel like business schools have failed this generation of management. They look at Apple and see them do something that customers like, but it has a cost to the company, like giving up the ability to track people. So they conclude that it will be an advantage if they defect and make money from ads. Then they see Apple do something customers hate and get away with it and the lesson they take is that they can get away with it too. But they can't, because the reason why Apple got away with it was by doing the thing the customers liked. And then they can't understand why they can't achieve Apple's margins. You idiots, do the opposite. Then you can charge Apple's margins from the first one and take their market share with the second one.
- KolenCh 3y ago
  IIRC this is not a reflection on actual CPU use. Those extra CPU usage is more like throttling. I don't remember where I read this though, worth searching about this if you're interested.

viraptor 3y ago

Not just overheating, but overheating the chips to the level where they put extra performance stress on the kernel for some weird reasons. Basically I was seeing 70% CPU usage plugged in on the left and 20% usage on the right with the same task. MacOS has many issues like that, the "Apple cares more about users/design" idea is a bad meme at this point.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
It has been like this for years. Apple does some things well, and there are reasons to like those things, but their following is overzealous to the point of kneeling before what is, fundamentally, still a for-profit corporation. I feel like business schools have failed this generation of management. They look at Apple and see them do something that customers like, but it has a cost to the company, like giving up the ability to track people. So they conclude that it will be an advantage if they defect and make money from ads. Then they see Apple do something customers hate and get away with it and the lesson they take is that they can get away with it too. But they can't, because the reason why Apple got away with it was by doing the thing the customers liked. And then they can't understand why they can't achieve Apple's margins. You idiots, do the opposite. Then you can charge Apple's margins from the first one and take their market share with the second one.
KolenCh 3y ago
IIRC this is not a reflection on actual CPU use. Those extra CPU usage is more like throttling. I don't remember where I read this though, worth searching about this if you're interested.