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This feels short on facts high on opinion (almost like the WSJ has some pre-aproved narative!). I can't speak to the other pieces mentioned but I think it's wor

by tomgp 3y ago

This feels short on facts high on opinion (almost like the WSJ has some pre-aproved narative!). I can't speak to the other pieces mentioned but I think it's worth noting that Brown's claims about a 'prefered narative' in Nature are rather undermined by some of the peer reviewers comments which encouraged him to broaden the scope of the research in precisely the way he claimed that Nature tacitly discourages. A more indepth look at the claims and counter claims... https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-scientists-pour-cold-water-on-claims-of-journal-bias-by-author-of-wildfires-study/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-scientists-pour-cold-w...

tomgp 3y ago
A beter example might have been the lack of funding available to alzheimers researchers not looking into the dominant (and now increasingly shaky) amyloid hypothesis. which to me looks like a genuine case of a "prefered narative" which may have held back progess for a decode or more.
UncleMeat 3y ago
There's an entire media ecosystem for this sort of stuff now. Step 1. Write a crappy paper or make an otherwise ill supported claim in the scientific community. Step 2. Scientific community says "hey that work is not good." Step 3. Run to media outlets that are thirsty for "look at how this community doesn't permit alternative thought" narratives. Step 4. Pivot into reactionary grifting, rake in patreon cash.
- ProjectArcturis 3y ago
  Not sure why you're being downvoted. This exact thing happens in evolution, global warming, and more recently covid.
- fwungy 3y ago
  Step 1. Write crappy paper Step 2. Seek peer review. Step 3. Wait months for peer review Step 4. Apply to journals for publish Step 5. Wait months for journal publish Step 6. Add paper to CV Most research papers are garbage, and almost completely ignored, unless it can be used as a cite in a similar crappy paper. The major journals aren't going to take your paper unless you already have a reputation, or you're connected to someone with a reputation. They aren't going to take a poorly thought out provocation piece from a nobody, when they are swamped with poorly written garbage from researchers trying to make tenure.
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ryandrake 3y ago
> This feels short on facts high on opinion Well, it IS the Opinion Page, so don’t expect much. You don’t really need facts if you are just going to blame a vague “Narrative” boogeyman. It’s a common excuse from people claiming to be censored: “I can’t say this or that because it ‘goes against The Narrative.’” OK, so tell us more about this shadowy narrative that’s hiding around every corner! Is The Narrative in the room with us right now?

by tomgp 3y ago

tomgp 3y ago

A beter example might have been the lack of funding available to alzheimers researchers not looking into the dominant (and now increasingly shaky) amyloid hypothesis. which to me looks like a genuine case of a "prefered narative" which may have held back progess for a decode or more.

UncleMeat 3y ago

There's an entire media ecosystem for this sort of stuff now. Step 1. Write a crappy paper or make an otherwise ill supported claim in the scientific community. Step 2. Scientific community says "hey that work is not good." Step 3. Run to media outlets that are thirsty for "look at how this community doesn't permit alternative thought" narratives. Step 4. Pivot into reactionary grifting, rake in patreon cash.

ProjectArcturis 3y ago
Not sure why you're being downvoted. This exact thing happens in evolution, global warming, and more recently covid.
fwungy 3y ago
Step 1. Write crappy paper Step 2. Seek peer review. Step 3. Wait months for peer review Step 4. Apply to journals for publish Step 5. Wait months for journal publish Step 6. Add paper to CV Most research papers are garbage, and almost completely ignored, unless it can be used as a cite in a similar crappy paper. The major journals aren't going to take your paper unless you already have a reputation, or you're connected to someone with a reputation. They aren't going to take a poorly thought out provocation piece from a nobody, when they are swamped with poorly written garbage from researchers trying to make tenure.

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ryandrake 3y ago

> This feels short on facts high on opinion Well, it IS the Opinion Page, so don’t expect much. You don’t really need facts if you are just going to blame a vague “Narrative” boogeyman. It’s a common excuse from people claiming to be censored: “I can’t say this or that because it ‘goes against The Narrative.’” OK, so tell us more about this shadowy narrative that’s hiding around every corner! Is The Narrative in the room with us right now?