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Chinese sailors dead after trying to trap British sub-surface vessels

19 points by aa_is_op 3y ago

metadat 3y ago
How do we know if it happened or not when China always offers blanket denials in these cases? (Because the Chinese government value projecting perfection over accepting reality)
- didntknowya 3y ago
  any country would avoid confirming any defense errors, I don't see why China needs to be singled out every time
  - metadat 3y ago
    Fair point, thanks matey.
huitzitziltzin 3y ago
“After trying to trap British subsurface vessels” in that headline is substantially misleading. “After becoming caught in a trap set to catch etc…” is a more accurate description, IMO.
CrzyLngPwd 3y ago
This is a propaganda fiction written by entertaining sensationalists pretending to be journalists. Scroll down, you'll find more enertainment.
- tibbydudeza 3y ago
  Well they did name Captian Colonel Xue Yong-Peng as a casualty. Very easy to debunk if he ever appears again in official media - there are official photos of him if you look deep enough , it not like the old days of Stalin where people disappear by brush from photos.
- quattrofan 3y ago
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- meepmorp 3y ago
  No, no - it's completely plausible for a nuclear powered sub to get stuck in at most 150 meters of water and have all its life support systems fail badly enough to kill a couple dozen sailors. Also, China simply hasn't mastered the complex technology to remove CO2/generate O2 in an emergency - nuclear reactors, sure, but a big canister of lithium hydroxide and some oxygen candles are completely beyond them. The whole article is dumb af. Maybe a sub bottomed out or smacked into something and had to head back to port - no way they lost a whole boat.
lgvln 3y ago
A previous rumor involving the same class of submarine: Chinese submarine crash rumor unsubstantiated: MND https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2023/08/22/2003805127 https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2023/08/22/...
simonblack 3y ago
It's in the 'Daily Fail'. The newspaper for gullible people. I predict that it will turn out to be be bullshit, as most of the 'Daily Fail' stuff is.
meepmorp 3y ago
> 'We have kit which absorbs CO2 and generates oxygen in such a situation. It is probable that other nations do not have this kind of tech.' Just for reference, we're talking about canisters of cheap, easy to make chemicals eat CO2, and a "candle" that releases O2 at a fixed rate as it burns.
micromachines 3y ago
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19 points by aa_is_op 3y ago

How do we know if it happened or not when China always offers blanket denials in these cases? (Because the Chinese government value projecting perfection over accepting reality)

didntknowya 3y ago
any country would avoid confirming any defense errors, I don't see why China needs to be singled out every time
- metadat 3y ago
  Fair point, thanks matey.

huitzitziltzin 3y ago

“After trying to trap British subsurface vessels” in that headline is substantially misleading. “After becoming caught in a trap set to catch etc…” is a more accurate description, IMO.

CrzyLngPwd 3y ago

This is a propaganda fiction written by entertaining sensationalists pretending to be journalists. Scroll down, you'll find more enertainment.

tibbydudeza 3y ago
Well they did name Captian Colonel Xue Yong-Peng as a casualty. Very easy to debunk if he ever appears again in official media - there are official photos of him if you look deep enough , it not like the old days of Stalin where people disappear by brush from photos.
quattrofan 3y ago
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meepmorp 3y ago
No, no - it's completely plausible for a nuclear powered sub to get stuck in at most 150 meters of water and have all its life support systems fail badly enough to kill a couple dozen sailors. Also, China simply hasn't mastered the complex technology to remove CO2/generate O2 in an emergency - nuclear reactors, sure, but a big canister of lithium hydroxide and some oxygen candles are completely beyond them. The whole article is dumb af. Maybe a sub bottomed out or smacked into something and had to head back to port - no way they lost a whole boat.

lgvln 3y ago

A previous rumor involving the same class of submarine: Chinese submarine crash rumor unsubstantiated: MND https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2023/08/22/2003805127 https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2023/08/22/...

simonblack 3y ago

It's in the 'Daily Fail'. The newspaper for gullible people. I predict that it will turn out to be be bullshit, as most of the 'Daily Fail' stuff is.

meepmorp 3y ago

> 'We have kit which absorbs CO2 and generates oxygen in such a situation. It is probable that other nations do not have this kind of tech.' Just for reference, we're talking about canisters of cheap, easy to make chemicals eat CO2, and a "candle" that releases O2 at a fixed rate as it burns.

micromachines 3y ago

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