Well, I think what I want _is_ a basic phone. I want a low powered cheap phone that runs an operating system that isn't openly hostile to me. I don't want fancy

Well, I think what I want _is_ a basic phone. I want a low powered cheap phone that runs an operating system that isn't openly hostile to me. I don't want fancy, big, etc. But I can't find a cheap basic android phone that isn't also user-hostile. I don't _like_ iOS but my options are * faff about with Google-free android, not be able to use banking apps, etc. * Give up and accept google's terms * Give up and accept Apple's terms I really wish Ubuntu phone or Firefox OS had taken off https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS And Apple's seem better.