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Each shoplifter was arrested an average of 20 times? Why are they released? Why even waste resources arrested this, it's a free taxi at this point?

junofan 3y ago
Bail reform. It seems as though criminals may be taking advantage of well-intentioned policies.
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curiousllama 3y ago
Petty crimes. They're stealing $3 sodas, not cars. Presumably, the bodega owner is calling the cops saying "Joey's back - please get him out of my shop"
- shadowtree 3y ago
  No, but you're proving my point. Look at the stats behind the various closures of retail stores across the US to learn about the impact of "petty crime". Here is an example of what small store owners have to endure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY1L62dKnU8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY1L62dKnU8 "El Sobrante store clerk set on fire during confrontation with shoplifter" The absolute ignorance and distaste towards retail workers and small shop owners in the ruling class in the US is shocking.
  - deadbeeves 3y ago
    Are you saying that it's common for store owners to be set on fire by shoplifters, or is your example inappropriate for being an outlier and not representative of what most shoplifting is like?
    - shadowtree 3y ago
      It's becoming more common now as store owners are left on their own and have to protect their livelihood with their bare hands. Big box retail (no worries, all insured - remember that BS line?) is simply closing stores and killing jobs AND access to goods in one go. Cue the complaint about "food deserts". Walmart closed in Portland. WALMART which operates throughout hurricanes cannot handle the rampant violence and theft anymore. But yeah, total ignorance from the bougie class toward the plight of blue collar Americans. Here is a Sikh store owner beating the shit out of a robber, because vigilante justice is all that is left: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12381031/7-Eleven-owners-ASSAULT-thief-stealing-cigarettes-store-stockton-california.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12381031/7-Eleven-o...
- joenot443 3y ago
  They’re not stealing $3 sodas, they’re stealing entire shelves of razors and shampoo and beer, stuffing them in garbage bags, and then selling them on 14th and A next to my apartment. I see this Every. Single. Day. It’s not bodega owners getting hit, it’s mostly franchised retail. CVS, Walgreens, Target seem to be the most common. I asked an AP at Target why they don’t stop them, and he said it’s store policy that unless they’re lifting a felony amount, there’s just no business reason to stop them. They’ll be back the next day anyway. People who don’t live here (or who live in nicer parts of the city) really don’t believe it, and it’s frustrating being gaslit about something you see almost every day.
gruez 3y ago
Because otherwise you get headlines like "crime: stolen candy bar, sentence: 10 years in prison", and people vote in a DA that's soft on crime.

junofan 3y ago

Bail reform. It seems as though criminals may be taking advantage of well-intentioned policies.

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curiousllama 3y ago

Petty crimes. They're stealing $3 sodas, not cars. Presumably, the bodega owner is calling the cops saying "Joey's back - please get him out of my shop"

shadowtree 3y ago
No, but you're proving my point. Look at the stats behind the various closures of retail stores across the US to learn about the impact of "petty crime". Here is an example of what small store owners have to endure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY1L62dKnU8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY1L62dKnU8 "El Sobrante store clerk set on fire during confrontation with shoplifter" The absolute ignorance and distaste towards retail workers and small shop owners in the ruling class in the US is shocking.
- deadbeeves 3y ago
  Are you saying that it's common for store owners to be set on fire by shoplifters, or is your example inappropriate for being an outlier and not representative of what most shoplifting is like?
  - shadowtree 3y ago
    It's becoming more common now as store owners are left on their own and have to protect their livelihood with their bare hands. Big box retail (no worries, all insured - remember that BS line?) is simply closing stores and killing jobs AND access to goods in one go. Cue the complaint about "food deserts". Walmart closed in Portland. WALMART which operates throughout hurricanes cannot handle the rampant violence and theft anymore. But yeah, total ignorance from the bougie class toward the plight of blue collar Americans. Here is a Sikh store owner beating the shit out of a robber, because vigilante justice is all that is left: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12381031/7-Eleven-owners-ASSAULT-thief-stealing-cigarettes-store-stockton-california.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12381031/7-Eleven-o...
joenot443 3y ago
They’re not stealing $3 sodas, they’re stealing entire shelves of razors and shampoo and beer, stuffing them in garbage bags, and then selling them on 14th and A next to my apartment. I see this Every. Single. Day. It’s not bodega owners getting hit, it’s mostly franchised retail. CVS, Walgreens, Target seem to be the most common. I asked an AP at Target why they don’t stop them, and he said it’s store policy that unless they’re lifting a felony amount, there’s just no business reason to stop them. They’ll be back the next day anyway. People who don’t live here (or who live in nicer parts of the city) really don’t believe it, and it’s frustrating being gaslit about something you see almost every day.

gruez 3y ago

Because otherwise you get headlines like "crime: stolen candy bar, sentence: 10 years in prison", and people vote in a DA that's soft on crime.