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It is a very good question, what should be protected by copyright and what shouldn’t be. I understand that in Japan, for example, it is legal to apply deep ana
by startupsfail 3y ago
It is a very good question, what should be protected by copyright and what shouldn’t be.
I understand that in Japan, for example, it is legal to apply deep analysis techniques, including deep learning and generative models to any data, regardless the copyright.
I would guess that in Japan, they’ve looked at China, where copyrights are also not an issue. And decided that it’s a really bad idea to stop research because of copyrights and let China to be first at the AGI race.
If a lot of time will get wasted on the GDPR and copyrights discussions in Europe and United States, instead of actually doing research, the democratic world will get behind.
Giant corporations that are scrambling to keep R&D going are quite law-abiding actually. And are currently struggling, as most of the datasets out there can’t be used, due to unclear copyright and licensing regulations.
- dbtc 3y agoIt's really too bad that human conflict in the form of an arms race is what's driving the development of these things.
- __loam 3y agoLooking to China for ethical business practice seems pretty bad to me. I don't think some imaginary race to agi is a good excuse for violating the rights of thousands of people. If you're getting value out of someone's data and they're not being compensated, some kind of shitty externality is happening. Hurting authors and artists to the point that they make fewer works that can be fed to the AI also hurts AI companies in the long run, and also it sucks a lot.
- firecall 3y agoNo one is looking to China for ethical business practice. Copyright ethics are something we have invented. China chooses not to follow western copyright regulations. That’s not unethical, to them anyway. Indeed, Copyright law was originally intended to allow people to legally copy things, not protect corporate interests for an eternity!
- startupsfail 3y agoThe question here could be who is first to AGI. If it is an authoritarian regime with leadership standing side by side with Putin, things would likely suck a lot more, even if we consider training neural networks from books (learning from books) to be a copyright violation.
- mistrial9 3y ago"race to the bottom" concept comes to mind here
- fomine3 3y agoAlso for vs US. Japan has no fair use law so it needed to be explicitly allowed.