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Because you can use a USB c adapter if you still want to use wired headphones

bigstrat2003 3y ago
Which is an abjectly terrible solution. Dongles can be lost or forgotten, and you can't charge your phone while using one (a very big deal if your use case is to hook the phone to your car for a long drive).
- stronglikedan 3y ago
  Why would you even disconnect your 2-in-1 dongle, that allows you to charge your phone while using the 3.5 mm jack, from your headphones wire to begin with? Or disconnect your second 2-in-1 dongle, which you got because they're extremely cheap, from your car adapter? I think it's a reasonably good solution for the relatively few people that still use a 3.5 mm jack.
  - monocasa 3y ago
    The audio jacks are normally on the top of the phone, the USB is normally on the bottom. Where my wife normally rests her phone doesn't allow USBC to be plugged in at the same time.
    - Kirby64 3y ago
      I assume GP is referring to 2-in-1 dongles that allow charging and audio out at the same time. You just leave the dongle in the car... and only plug in the USB-C. It handles audio out and charging at the same time, and is one less cable to plug in. It's better than plugging in USB-C and 3.5mm into your phone every time.
      - monocasa 3y ago
        Right, so with the USBC on the bottom of the phone, it's blocked where she prefers to rest her phone.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        So she can adapt and change her preferences.
        monocasa 3y ago
        Or she can not, and keep her phone that works for her rather than something worse for her workflow.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        For the moment. Failure to adapt is a weakness though.
        monocasa 3y ago
        Forcing adaptation purely for the sake of newness without benefit is also a weakness.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        lol, no. And it's not purely for the sake of newness, there is benefit. But if someone can't adapt and is too weak minded, they will never see it.
        Kirby64 3y ago
        If you need the charge the phone, you need to plug it in. No way around that. Might as well get audio output at the same time from the same cable.
        monocasa 3y ago
        She doesn't need to charge her phone in the car generally; she charges it at night. She simply wants audio out that just works even if I used the car last.
  - bigstrat2003 3y ago
    I was not aware that such a thing existed. I've only ever seen dongles which don't let you charge. So thanks for the info, that's good to know at least. As to why you'd disconnect - shit happens. Maybe you have an iPhone and the other person using your car has an Android phone, so you each need different dongles. Maybe someone accidentally removed it, who knows? The point is that dongles can, and will, get lost or misplaced so they aren't a good solution.
- Kirby64 3y ago
  Honest question, why are you still using a 3.5mm jack for connecting to car audio? Outside of very old cars that have not been retrofitted with more modern head units, every car that I can think of in the last 10+ years has had Bluetooth as a standard feature. It's just far more convenient.
  - monocasa 3y ago
    Because pairing/connecting to crappy headunits is a task apparently defined by Satan to cause as much human suffering as possible.
    - Kirby64 3y ago
      My experience does not mirror your anecdote, quite frankly. Sometimes pairing is a pain the first time, but any car I've driven in recent memory has very workable bluetooth that connects successfully every time. I even installed a SUPER cheap head unit in a car like 8 years ago (I literally sorted by cheapest head unit that had radio and bluetooth... it was like $35) and that was essentially bulletproof. The only case where this tends to be a pain in the ass is if you have multiple people attempting to use the bluetooth that are frequently in the car at the same time (e.g., a couple who both use the car, and you alternate who uses the bluetooth). In that case, a dongle that is connected to USB-C power and a 3.5mm aux jack directly seems superior, since you just need to connect a single cable to both charge and run audio.
      - monocasa 3y ago
        > The only case where this tends to be a pain in the ass is if you have multiple people attempting to use the bluetooth that are frequently in the car at the same time (e.g., a couple who both use the car, and you alternate who uses the bluetooth). One of many scenarios that I have hit where Bluetooth breaks down. > that case, a dongle that is connected to USB-C power and a 3.5mm aux jack directly seems superior, since you just need to connect a single cable to both charge and run audio. USB is on the bottom generally, headphone jacks are normally on the top. There're a lot of places to rest a phone in a car where the headphone jack is available, but the USB is not.
dreamcompiler 3y ago
And AFAICT, just like in the Lightning days, you still cannot charge the phone through the port and use the wired headphone adapter at the same time, at least without a third-party dongle.
- monocasa 3y ago
  Correct. Power delivery and analog audio are mutually exclusive. The way the dongles that do charge work is by putting a USB DAC chip in the connector.
_Algernon_ 3y ago
I can only imagine the extra strain having a dongle plugged into your phone puts on the port with the phone being in your pocket. Say what you will about 3.5mm, but it is robust in that scenario. I've never had a 3.5mm port break before the cable that is plugged in. USB-C ports wear out within a couple of years from just slight strain on a charging cable. This is not the solution you claim it to be.

bigstrat2003 3y ago

Which is an abjectly terrible solution. Dongles can be lost or forgotten, and you can't charge your phone while using one (a very big deal if your use case is to hook the phone to your car for a long drive).

stronglikedan 3y ago
Why would you even disconnect your 2-in-1 dongle, that allows you to charge your phone while using the 3.5 mm jack, from your headphones wire to begin with? Or disconnect your second 2-in-1 dongle, which you got because they're extremely cheap, from your car adapter? I think it's a reasonably good solution for the relatively few people that still use a 3.5 mm jack.
- monocasa 3y ago
  The audio jacks are normally on the top of the phone, the USB is normally on the bottom. Where my wife normally rests her phone doesn't allow USBC to be plugged in at the same time.
  - Kirby64 3y ago
    I assume GP is referring to 2-in-1 dongles that allow charging and audio out at the same time. You just leave the dongle in the car... and only plug in the USB-C. It handles audio out and charging at the same time, and is one less cable to plug in. It's better than plugging in USB-C and 3.5mm into your phone every time.
    - monocasa 3y ago
      Right, so with the USBC on the bottom of the phone, it's blocked where she prefers to rest her phone.
      - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        So she can adapt and change her preferences.
        monocasa 3y ago
        Or she can not, and keep her phone that works for her rather than something worse for her workflow.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        For the moment. Failure to adapt is a weakness though.
        monocasa 3y ago
        Forcing adaptation purely for the sake of newness without benefit is also a weakness.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        lol, no. And it's not purely for the sake of newness, there is benefit. But if someone can't adapt and is too weak minded, they will never see it.
      - Kirby64 3y ago
        If you need the charge the phone, you need to plug it in. No way around that. Might as well get audio output at the same time from the same cable.
        monocasa 3y ago
        She doesn't need to charge her phone in the car generally; she charges it at night. She simply wants audio out that just works even if I used the car last.
- bigstrat2003 3y ago
  I was not aware that such a thing existed. I've only ever seen dongles which don't let you charge. So thanks for the info, that's good to know at least. As to why you'd disconnect - shit happens. Maybe you have an iPhone and the other person using your car has an Android phone, so you each need different dongles. Maybe someone accidentally removed it, who knows? The point is that dongles can, and will, get lost or misplaced so they aren't a good solution.
Kirby64 3y ago
Honest question, why are you still using a 3.5mm jack for connecting to car audio? Outside of very old cars that have not been retrofitted with more modern head units, every car that I can think of in the last 10+ years has had Bluetooth as a standard feature. It's just far more convenient.
- monocasa 3y ago
  Because pairing/connecting to crappy headunits is a task apparently defined by Satan to cause as much human suffering as possible.
  - Kirby64 3y ago
    My experience does not mirror your anecdote, quite frankly. Sometimes pairing is a pain the first time, but any car I've driven in recent memory has very workable bluetooth that connects successfully every time. I even installed a SUPER cheap head unit in a car like 8 years ago (I literally sorted by cheapest head unit that had radio and bluetooth... it was like $35) and that was essentially bulletproof. The only case where this tends to be a pain in the ass is if you have multiple people attempting to use the bluetooth that are frequently in the car at the same time (e.g., a couple who both use the car, and you alternate who uses the bluetooth). In that case, a dongle that is connected to USB-C power and a 3.5mm aux jack directly seems superior, since you just need to connect a single cable to both charge and run audio.
    - monocasa 3y ago
      > The only case where this tends to be a pain in the ass is if you have multiple people attempting to use the bluetooth that are frequently in the car at the same time (e.g., a couple who both use the car, and you alternate who uses the bluetooth). One of many scenarios that I have hit where Bluetooth breaks down. > that case, a dongle that is connected to USB-C power and a 3.5mm aux jack directly seems superior, since you just need to connect a single cable to both charge and run audio. USB is on the bottom generally, headphone jacks are normally on the top. There're a lot of places to rest a phone in a car where the headphone jack is available, but the USB is not.

dreamcompiler 3y ago

And AFAICT, just like in the Lightning days, you still cannot charge the phone through the port and use the wired headphone adapter at the same time, at least without a third-party dongle.

monocasa 3y ago
Correct. Power delivery and analog audio are mutually exclusive. The way the dongles that do charge work is by putting a USB DAC chip in the connector.

_Algernon_ 3y ago

I can only imagine the extra strain having a dongle plugged into your phone puts on the port with the phone being in your pocket. Say what you will about 3.5mm, but it is robust in that scenario. I've never had a 3.5mm port break before the cable that is plugged in. USB-C ports wear out within a couple of years from just slight strain on a charging cable. This is not the solution you claim it to be.