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Ok but if you pay for the subscription fee does that mean they can't sell your data to other brokers or anyone else or does it simply stop ads from being served

Ok but if you pay for the subscription fee does that mean they can't sell your data to other brokers or anyone else or does it simply stop ads from being served to you?

tjrgergw 3y ago
It doesn't matter what they "can" or "can't" do. They'll do it.
- melx 3y ago
  Exactly. They probably see their ads revenue is getting saturated by now, so a subscription model is a way to keep the revenue as the same level or higher.
bad_user 3y ago
Meta is only offering this because the EU is forcing their hands to ask for consent without degrading service for those that refuse. "Selling" user data isn't legal without a basis under GDPR and they don't have it. Also, Meta aren't stupid to give away their asset to others. Like Google, they don't actually sell user data, rather they provide an ads platform on which people can place bids. Which under GDPR is also unlawful, and Meta just found out about it. Granted, you may believe that they'll engage in unlawful behavior anyway, but I'd say that they are a huge target, breaking records in fines which are only growing.
- troupo 3y ago
  > Meta just found out about it. Well, they didn't just find about it, they knew about it from the very beginning and employed every trick in the book to weasel out of it. https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/02/meta_eu_gdpr_advertising/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/02/meta_eu_gdpr_advertis... It is only after they got slapped with multiple costly fines this year that they now pretend to change their tune.
  - bad_user 3y ago
    Well, yes, I was using an euphemism :-)
justrealist 3y ago
Facebook doesn't sell your data to brokers. In the US or EU. That's bottomfeeder crap. FB advertising is a walled garden and they want advertisers to come to FB to buy ad space. They would never simply sell that data back out in to the broader ecosystem. It's not about charity, it's about control.
ppsreejith 3y ago
Meta doesn't sell your data to brokers. They sell access to your attention using ad slots. Advertisers upload their creatives to Meta and specify who they want to target.
- ethbr1 3y ago
  Exactly. It's important to be accurate. Also, the business model allows Facebook and Google to talk about protecting your data... while also reaping the advantage of retaining sole access to that data. By selling targeting only, advertisers are forced to buy again and again. If they sold the underlying data, they'd be cheapening their own treasure.
- nixass 3y ago
  Potato potahto

Ok but if you pay for the subscription fee does that mean they can't sell your data to other brokers or anyone else or does it simply stop ads from being served to you?

tjrgergw 3y ago

It doesn't matter what they "can" or "can't" do. They'll do it.

melx 3y ago
Exactly. They probably see their ads revenue is getting saturated by now, so a subscription model is a way to keep the revenue as the same level or higher.

bad_user 3y ago

Meta is only offering this because the EU is forcing their hands to ask for consent without degrading service for those that refuse. "Selling" user data isn't legal without a basis under GDPR and they don't have it. Also, Meta aren't stupid to give away their asset to others. Like Google, they don't actually sell user data, rather they provide an ads platform on which people can place bids. Which under GDPR is also unlawful, and Meta just found out about it. Granted, you may believe that they'll engage in unlawful behavior anyway, but I'd say that they are a huge target, breaking records in fines which are only growing.

troupo 3y ago
> Meta just found out about it. Well, they didn't just find about it, they knew about it from the very beginning and employed every trick in the book to weasel out of it. https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/02/meta_eu_gdpr_advertising/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/02/meta_eu_gdpr_advertis... It is only after they got slapped with multiple costly fines this year that they now pretend to change their tune.
- bad_user 3y ago
  Well, yes, I was using an euphemism :-)

justrealist 3y ago

Facebook doesn't sell your data to brokers. In the US or EU. That's bottomfeeder crap. FB advertising is a walled garden and they want advertisers to come to FB to buy ad space. They would never simply sell that data back out in to the broader ecosystem. It's not about charity, it's about control.

ppsreejith 3y ago

Meta doesn't sell your data to brokers. They sell access to your attention using ad slots. Advertisers upload their creatives to Meta and specify who they want to target.

ethbr1 3y ago
Exactly. It's important to be accurate. Also, the business model allows Facebook and Google to talk about protecting your data... while also reaping the advantage of retaining sole access to that data. By selling targeting only, advertisers are forced to buy again and again. If they sold the underlying data, they'd be cheapening their own treasure.
nixass 3y ago
Potato potahto