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> "We have not yet figured out hybrid work," Adam Mosseri, head of Instagram, wrote on Threads. "Assigned desks mean lots of empty chairs. Hotel desks mean lots

• jraph 3y ago
  I had this thought reading the whole article. Surely the company has enough money to figure all this stuff out. The way things are described, it feels like the company is being incredibly disrespectful to its employees.
  • iainmerrick 3y ago
    It also seems a bit strange for the company to have an overarching goal around building a "metaverse", but not to try to figure out how they themselves might use those tools for their own work. No appetite for their own dogfood?
    • danielbln 3y ago
      Especially with the new Metaverse tech that can be seen in the Lex Fridman interview. No-one gives a damn about those weird comic avatars, but a real representation of a human including facial movements etc., that might more interesting.
      • jraph 3y ago
        > but a real representation of a human including facial movements Probably at high risk of landing in the uncanny valley, it has to be executed very well, so well I'm not sure it possible at this time.
        • danielbln 3y ago
          I'd say it's past the uncanny valley overall: https://youtu.be/MVYrJJNdrEg?feature=shared&t=799 https://youtu.be/MVYrJJNdrEg?feature=shared&t=799
          • iainmerrick 3y ago
            I feel like this is kind of missing the forest for the trees. Making super-realistic telepresence in VR is really hard -- absolutely. And Meta is the kind of huge tech company that might have the resources to do it. But do you need super-realistic telepresence to be a useful remote work tool? Who knows? Slack is fairly useful for remote work (arguably) and it's mostly just text, emoji and meme images. Online text chat has been around for decades and Slack is a decent implementation of it (way easier for most people than IRC, for example). What are some more useful tools that could be made for remote work, and why isn't Meta building those? Edit to add: if you're taking Snow Crash as your starting point for "metaverse", I think the important point is not "it's a super-realistic VR experience"; the point is that "it's a cool and useful place where people like to hang out, so a lot of life and work happens there".
            • danielbln 3y ago
              Yet even with Slack around we still do video meetings, every day. So clearly there is something that Slack does not cover, and a video call is good enough in many ways, but it's certainly doesn't capture the sort of face to face, in-a-meetingroom-together sort of feeling. How important that is for productivity, I don't know, I could think of a few usecases like brainstorming and such.
• rgmerk 3y ago
  To be fair to Meta, we’ve learned from the past 60 years of software development that trying to anticipate everything in advance is a fool’s errand. While some level of forethought and planning is essential, sometimes you just have to learn by doing.
  • _ph_ 3y ago
    I am a huge fand of learning by doing. This is a great way of dealing with problems you cannot anticipate. But it is just bad planning, if you are not dealing in advance with the problems you can anticipate. Like not having enough desks in the first place.
  • falcor84 3y ago
    Iteration can be good to more effectively optimize metrics, but what are they optimizing for here? Is there any particular metric that is currently down and should be up, other than butts-in-seats?
    • rwmj 3y ago
      The metric is profit, and they're trying to optimize it by "encouraging" people to leave. Zuckerberg has wasted $40 billion on a failed idea and needs to turn things around.
  • fanf2 3y ago
    You can learn by doing a staged rollout. Much less risky than a big bang deployment.