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TLDR; Marxism is great if you ignore all the things Marxist countries have done.

thiagoharry 3y ago
Transform feudal countries into space powers in a few decades, eradicate illiteracy and homelessness appears good things for me.
- matthewfelgate 3y ago
  You don't need Marxism to achieve any of those things. And no murdering millions of your own citizens along the way, yay!!
  - thiagoharry 3y ago
    Capitalism also developed murdering millions of their own citizens in bourgeois revolutions. Any drastic change in a society involves fight for power. Moralism is a bad tool to understand such dynamics in society. All developed countries that became rich can be separated in four categories: 1) They had colonies in the past (or even have colonies in the present). 2) They have very little population and lots of natural resources. 3) They underwent a Marxist(-Leninist) revolution. 4) They were benefited by cold-war policies. Being neighbor of communist countries, these countries got external incentive to industrialize and become models for propaganda. Cases 3 and 4 are linked to Marxist revolutions. Cases 2 are very special ones and cannot be generalized. Case 1 involves much more atrocities than a mere revolution in your own country, it involves invading and stealing other countries.
    - matthewfelgate 3y ago
      Historically illiterate nonsense.
      - thiagoharry 3y ago
        What is historically wrong? And if you do not need Marxism, where are all other success cases in the hundreds of countries in the world outside these cases? You know that we have almost 200 countries, only a small minority manage to develop themselves. What explain the incredible coincidence that we have a so small number of developed countries, all them only divided in that 4 cases? What explain that the only countries that manage to became competitor to major capitalist powers are countries like USSR and now China?
        matthewfelgate 3y ago
        Not sure what your are smoking tbh.

Transform feudal countries into space powers in a few decades, eradicate illiteracy and homelessness appears good things for me.

matthewfelgate 3y ago
You don't need Marxism to achieve any of those things. And no murdering millions of your own citizens along the way, yay!!
- thiagoharry 3y ago
  Capitalism also developed murdering millions of their own citizens in bourgeois revolutions. Any drastic change in a society involves fight for power. Moralism is a bad tool to understand such dynamics in society. All developed countries that became rich can be separated in four categories: 1) They had colonies in the past (or even have colonies in the present). 2) They have very little population and lots of natural resources. 3) They underwent a Marxist(-Leninist) revolution. 4) They were benefited by cold-war policies. Being neighbor of communist countries, these countries got external incentive to industrialize and become models for propaganda. Cases 3 and 4 are linked to Marxist revolutions. Cases 2 are very special ones and cannot be generalized. Case 1 involves much more atrocities than a mere revolution in your own country, it involves invading and stealing other countries.
  - matthewfelgate 3y ago
    Historically illiterate nonsense.
    - thiagoharry 3y ago
      What is historically wrong? And if you do not need Marxism, where are all other success cases in the hundreds of countries in the world outside these cases? You know that we have almost 200 countries, only a small minority manage to develop themselves. What explain the incredible coincidence that we have a so small number of developed countries, all them only divided in that 4 cases? What explain that the only countries that manage to became competitor to major capitalist powers are countries like USSR and now China?
      - matthewfelgate 3y ago
        Not sure what your are smoking tbh.