4 ms·

that's interesting, because for the small amount of exposure I have had to common core math that has been pushed federally was actually the opposite. it seems t

by jjeaff 3y ago

that's interesting, because for the small amount of exposure I have had to common core math that has been pushed federally was actually the opposite. it seems to eschew the simpler methods to "just get the right answer" in favor of more long-hand methods that help with understanding of the concepts.

addicted 3y ago
This is not the same as common core. Common core for the most part was pretty well designed AFAICT and was grounded in real pedagogy. Like you point out, common core was focused more on understanding concepts as opposed to reaching answers. What the California standard appears to be doing (full disclosure, I’m basing this on second hand accounts all of which have been negative) is simply eliminating certain fundamental math altogether.
achenatx 3y ago
common core is not methods at all. Common core is only standards. Like be able to solve 3 digit addition. Or be able to estimate the the product of 3 digit numbers The methods themselves can be any methods. I agree that the methods Ive seen associated with common core are designed to help people understand how the math works. Like why when you add fractions do you not just also add the denominator. However it is a tough balance between just memorizing how to do the problem and understanding why you do it a certain way. The big push I see is word problems in lieu of worksheets. The huge issue is word problems take a long time and kids havent done enough worksheets to become fluent in the techniques. Teachers call worksheets drill and kill and want to "teach to the whole child". The big problem is that people in education are simply not very smart. The education researchers are also not very smart. Ive seen data that shows that stem teachers are ok, but I dont think those are the majority of education academics.

4 ms·

that's interesting, because for the small amount of exposure I have had to common core math that has been pushed federally was actually the opposite. it seems t

by jjeaff 3y ago

addicted 3y ago
This is not the same as common core. Common core for the most part was pretty well designed AFAICT and was grounded in real pedagogy. Like you point out, common core was focused more on understanding concepts as opposed to reaching answers. What the California standard appears to be doing (full disclosure, I’m basing this on second hand accounts all of which have been negative) is simply eliminating certain fundamental math altogether.
achenatx 3y ago
common core is not methods at all. Common core is only standards. Like be able to solve 3 digit addition. Or be able to estimate the the product of 3 digit numbers The methods themselves can be any methods. I agree that the methods Ive seen associated with common core are designed to help people understand how the math works. Like why when you add fractions do you not just also add the denominator. However it is a tough balance between just memorizing how to do the problem and understanding why you do it a certain way. The big push I see is word problems in lieu of worksheets. The huge issue is word problems take a long time and kids havent done enough worksheets to become fluent in the techniques. Teachers call worksheets drill and kill and want to "teach to the whole child". The big problem is that people in education are simply not very smart. The education researchers are also not very smart. Ive seen data that shows that stem teachers are ok, but I dont think those are the majority of education academics.