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> The big businesses … have zero interest in producing counterfeit Calvin and Hobbes strips Agree. I’m not suggesting creative authors are attributed and recei
by cush 3y ago
> The big businesses … have zero interest in producing counterfeit Calvin and Hobbes strips
Agree. I’m not suggesting creative authors are attributed and receive royalties based on work generated in their style. I’m suggesting they get compensated for work generated from their training data - based on model weights.
People need to get paid. Again, this is Uber/AirBnB all over again except it applies to literally every industry.
Coincidentally, Business Insider wrote about this topic just a few hours ago. https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-jaron-lanier-ai-advancing-without-human-dignity-undermines-everything-2023-10?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-jaron-lanier-ai-ad...
- djur 3y agoI don't think the question of rights conferred through training data is going to be resolved through copyright law. I think the availability of models trained exclusively on licensed data is going to bypass that controversy. People will get paid to contribute data but probably not a lot.
- cush 3y agoSure, and that licensed work was created by people. Those people should get paid upon the creation of new derivative work. That’s exactly what copyright law is.
- djur 3y agoCopyright law does not currently mandate any particular payment schedule for licensing work. Are you suggesting that it should?
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- cush 3y agoOkay… I feel you understand what I’m getting at but are super keen on nitpicking. I know copyright doesn’t mandate payment schedules. It’s a legal tool that prevents people from distributing derivative work without permission. Currently (most) AI models don’t attribute original creators (let alone pay them royalties), which means it’s impossible to pay content creators even if we wanted to. It’s a widely known issue that’s a really hot topic right now. https://hbr.org/2023/04/generative-ai-has-an-intellectual-property-problem https://hbr.org/2023/04/generative-ai-has-an-intellectual-pr...
- djur 3y agoI'm not nitpicking, I'm trying to understand what you mean by "copyright law [taking] a massive leap forward in the next year".