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I'm not talking about the article. I'm referring directly to the comment chain about "free" healthcare. Regardless, taxes are NOT FREE. College will never be f

I'm not talking about the article. I'm referring directly to the comment chain about "free" healthcare. Regardless, taxes are NOT FREE. College will never be free, you can only pass the cost on to someone else. Somewhere, someone in the chain has to pay for it. If someone provides you a service then it gets paid for by someone. If no one pays for it then it's slavery and the people providing the service pay with their own bodies/minds. Obviously you're not suggesting professors and people that run the university not get paid.... so who is paying for it? This isn't a hard concept and yet you keep kicking the can down the road suggesting it's free free free. Where does the money come from?

danielmarkbruce 3y ago
Oh, i missed that re healthcare. You are arguing a semantic issue that practically everyone is aware of. "free" in this context refers to the person receiving the service without paying for it, irrespective of who else is paying for it. Everyone knows it's not great wording.
- DrThunder 3y ago
  Everyone is not aware of it that's why I'm saying it. It's a deliberate use of the word free to confuse and gaslight people. There are many people out there that are 1 dimensional thinkers and can't think past a few steps. This is why we had a large portion of the population demanding they get their school loans forgiven in the U.S. They're unable to think of the repercussions of totally swamping the economy and the fact that in the end the money will be paid back by them anyway. I agree that socialized healthcare has its advantages but it's not even free for the person receiving service, they're just pre-ordering their service. Just like I said in an above comment, you don't call pre-order game free even though at the moment it comes at you're not paying anything.
  - danielmarkbruce 3y ago
    What's a better way to phrase it concisely?
    - DrThunder 3y ago
      Just call it public funded healthcare or socialized healthcare. I'm assuming you believe it's a better option so presenting the positives of this system should be enough. I think cons should be presented as well though, because no system is perfect.

danielmarkbruce 3y ago

Oh, i missed that re healthcare. You are arguing a semantic issue that practically everyone is aware of. "free" in this context refers to the person receiving the service without paying for it, irrespective of who else is paying for it. Everyone knows it's not great wording.

DrThunder 3y ago
Everyone is not aware of it that's why I'm saying it. It's a deliberate use of the word free to confuse and gaslight people. There are many people out there that are 1 dimensional thinkers and can't think past a few steps. This is why we had a large portion of the population demanding they get their school loans forgiven in the U.S. They're unable to think of the repercussions of totally swamping the economy and the fact that in the end the money will be paid back by them anyway. I agree that socialized healthcare has its advantages but it's not even free for the person receiving service, they're just pre-ordering their service. Just like I said in an above comment, you don't call pre-order game free even though at the moment it comes at you're not paying anything.
- danielmarkbruce 3y ago
  What's a better way to phrase it concisely?
  - DrThunder 3y ago
    Just call it public funded healthcare or socialized healthcare. I'm assuming you believe it's a better option so presenting the positives of this system should be enough. I think cons should be presented as well though, because no system is perfect.