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Or perhaps we should stop pushing everyone to college and encourage those who have the aptitude to go into trades. Of the successful tradespeople I know, the on

Or perhaps we should stop pushing everyone to college and encourage those who have the aptitude to go into trades. Of the successful tradespeople I know, the only thing going to college would have done was delayed their entry into the workforce and saddle them with debt. Might they be able to run their businesses 10% more efficiently or grow twice as big had they had more business education? Probably, but there are far more businesses that succeed by being just the right size for the owner than there are hyper growth oriented, lean machines.

jauntywundrkind 3y ago
I don't think it's fair or reasonable for only those from well off families to have the chance at college though. College access shouldn't be tied to ones socioeconomic background.
- jonhohle 3y ago
  I commented elsewhere, but I came from a not-well-off single parent house. I paid for college with loans. Then I paid off the loans. If someone has done well in school and wants to go into a stable, well-paying profession, it's probably the only area (besides a mortgage) that I'd recommend taking a loan. I paid zero dollars for four years to go to school and live and eat on campus. Going into an engineering program, the risk was relatively low that I would not be able to pay it back while still in my 20s (which I did). 20 years later, while the cost of the degree was high the opportunities that it made available were beyond what would have been available without it and payback was amortized over time.
  - jauntywundrkind 3y ago
    If you think the cost of the degree 20 years ago was high, you should see what the cost is today! It just seems like there's endless excuses to write off empathy & countless "I did it and so can others" anec-data, that doesn't reflect on what has become of a social opportunity both for the student, and for society to invest in & improve itself, in the long term.
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jauntywundrkind 3y ago

I don't think it's fair or reasonable for only those from well off families to have the chance at college though. College access shouldn't be tied to ones socioeconomic background.

jonhohle 3y ago
I commented elsewhere, but I came from a not-well-off single parent house. I paid for college with loans. Then I paid off the loans. If someone has done well in school and wants to go into a stable, well-paying profession, it's probably the only area (besides a mortgage) that I'd recommend taking a loan. I paid zero dollars for four years to go to school and live and eat on campus. Going into an engineering program, the risk was relatively low that I would not be able to pay it back while still in my 20s (which I did). 20 years later, while the cost of the degree was high the opportunities that it made available were beyond what would have been available without it and payback was amortized over time.
- jauntywundrkind 3y ago
  If you think the cost of the degree 20 years ago was high, you should see what the cost is today! It just seems like there's endless excuses to write off empathy & countless "I did it and so can others" anec-data, that doesn't reflect on what has become of a social opportunity both for the student, and for society to invest in & improve itself, in the long term.

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