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I mean it’s not that hard to rent a couple juicing machines and make 700 cups of oj. Maybe a bit expensive because you have to source them in a large radius but

I mean it’s not that hard to rent a couple juicing machines and make 700 cups of oj. Maybe a bit expensive because you have to source them in a large radius but not crazy expensive. If it has to be done manually ok then it’s just expensive because of labor costs but still 20 people could probably knock it out with a press. I’d probably charge at least 5-6$ a head for that ideally closer to $10 just because it’s not simple to arrange but doable

upon_drumhead 3y ago
Or the venue is just lying and gives you frozen concentrate.
willcipriano 3y ago
A cup of orange juice is typically pretty small and resturant juicers work pretty fast. A big banquet hall that does mimosas probably already has the equipment to accommodate this request. (Or close enough, I'd juice a bit the night before to get a sense of the time and have some in case we run out)
- hattmall 3y ago
  And realistically, I saw no requirement of 100% fresh squeezed orange juice. So at most we're doing 51% fresh squeezed. I'm not sure it specified a size either. So we can certainly shave half an ounce or more off of whatever is customary.
  - willcipriano 3y ago
    You could always send the busboy to the grocery store to pick up a few gallons if you run short. When you do big parties like that you don't just randomly distribute servings. I'd have the overfull, 100% real, ten minute old OJ for the guy with the really particular request and could end up serving sunny delight to the cheap seats. To serve 700 people a drink takes a considerable amount of time in and of itself so you have more breathing room than you expect. This is really common. When you do a wedding the bride and grooms table gets the best looking portions you have, the table next to the bathroom isn't so lucky.
    - jiggawatts 3y ago
      You and the person you replied to both failed the test. The requirements were clear and specific and you cheated to achieve the goal you assumed, not the goal that was stated.
      - malfist 3y ago
        To be clear, the author specifically includes that the OJ must be fresh and squeezed no more than 2 hour prior
        willcipriano 3y ago
        > OJ must be fresh and squeezed no more than 2 hour prior He also has no clue that it's 2 hours old or 4 hour old. What he really wants to do is tell his guests "this was fresh squeezed, two hours old" and he will get what he paid for, just like his Maine lobster (thats probably Russian) or softshell crabs from Alaska (China), or Key lime pie (Chinese lime juice). That's how the resturant industry works, this test is useless there.
        greenhexagon 3y ago
        Blogpost: "To figure out which vendors are truth worthy, see if they give a realistic and thoughtful response to a specific request" willcipriano: "This wouldn't work on me, because I'd just do fraud"
        jiggawatts 3y ago
        In more civilized countries, false advertising like this is illegal and is punished with enormous fines.
        syradar 3y ago
        Yeah you just failed, and if it was my country you would be reported to the Public Complaint Board and fined for probably breaking contract and false advertisement.
- thfuran 3y ago
  >A big banquet hall that does mimosas probably already has the equipment to accommodate this request. In which case it's the wrong request. The article specifically says it should be a very onerous request.
adhesive_wombat 3y ago
I think the point is less about how to specifically make 700 glasses of orange juice in the 2 hours between 5 and 7am and more about forcing a supplier to come up with a meaningful quote at non-zero cost, presumably to say "actually never mind, it was a test" or just ignore the effort. Unless this is service they already provide: even if they only have to ring round juicer machine hire in the area and figure out the logistics of getting it to the site on time it's not free to the venue. It's a way to offload the cost of your internal requirements onto each supplier, and if fact is more punitive on better suppliers who make the effort to allocate resources into coming up with a quote for a service you don't even want.

upon_drumhead 3y ago

Or the venue is just lying and gives you frozen concentrate.

willcipriano 3y ago

A cup of orange juice is typically pretty small and resturant juicers work pretty fast. A big banquet hall that does mimosas probably already has the equipment to accommodate this request. (Or close enough, I'd juice a bit the night before to get a sense of the time and have some in case we run out)

hattmall 3y ago
And realistically, I saw no requirement of 100% fresh squeezed orange juice. So at most we're doing 51% fresh squeezed. I'm not sure it specified a size either. So we can certainly shave half an ounce or more off of whatever is customary.
- willcipriano 3y ago
  You could always send the busboy to the grocery store to pick up a few gallons if you run short. When you do big parties like that you don't just randomly distribute servings. I'd have the overfull, 100% real, ten minute old OJ for the guy with the really particular request and could end up serving sunny delight to the cheap seats. To serve 700 people a drink takes a considerable amount of time in and of itself so you have more breathing room than you expect. This is really common. When you do a wedding the bride and grooms table gets the best looking portions you have, the table next to the bathroom isn't so lucky.
  - jiggawatts 3y ago
    You and the person you replied to both failed the test. The requirements were clear and specific and you cheated to achieve the goal you assumed, not the goal that was stated.
    - malfist 3y ago
      To be clear, the author specifically includes that the OJ must be fresh and squeezed no more than 2 hour prior
      - willcipriano 3y ago
        > OJ must be fresh and squeezed no more than 2 hour prior He also has no clue that it's 2 hours old or 4 hour old. What he really wants to do is tell his guests "this was fresh squeezed, two hours old" and he will get what he paid for, just like his Maine lobster (thats probably Russian) or softshell crabs from Alaska (China), or Key lime pie (Chinese lime juice). That's how the resturant industry works, this test is useless there.
        greenhexagon 3y ago
        Blogpost: "To figure out which vendors are truth worthy, see if they give a realistic and thoughtful response to a specific request" willcipriano: "This wouldn't work on me, because I'd just do fraud"
        jiggawatts 3y ago
        In more civilized countries, false advertising like this is illegal and is punished with enormous fines.
        syradar 3y ago
        Yeah you just failed, and if it was my country you would be reported to the Public Complaint Board and fined for probably breaking contract and false advertisement.
thfuran 3y ago
>A big banquet hall that does mimosas probably already has the equipment to accommodate this request. In which case it's the wrong request. The article specifically says it should be a very onerous request.

adhesive_wombat 3y ago

I think the point is less about how to specifically make 700 glasses of orange juice in the 2 hours between 5 and 7am and more about forcing a supplier to come up with a meaningful quote at non-zero cost, presumably to say "actually never mind, it was a test" or just ignore the effort. Unless this is service they already provide: even if they only have to ring round juicer machine hire in the area and figure out the logistics of getting it to the site on time it's not free to the venue. It's a way to offload the cost of your internal requirements onto each supplier, and if fact is more punitive on better suppliers who make the effort to allocate resources into coming up with a quote for a service you don't even want.