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> After months of brainwashing When you say stuff like this, it makes me think you have the wrong idea about who was the victim of brainwashing.

somenameforme 3y ago
It sounds hyperbolic but look at any poll on how deadly people thought COVID was compared to how deadly it actually was. This study [1] found people believing that, on average, about 16% of people infected (diagnosed or not) with COVID died. In reality, there were a measured total of around 700 million cases and 7 million deaths. And vast numbers of cases went undiagnosed and so would never have ended up being tracked. In any case, the real IFR was well less than 1%. Brain washing is an unnecessarily loaded and divisive term, but it is safe to say that the media (and politicians) actively went out of their way to make people believe things that were not true, and they succeeded. [1] - https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.619145/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.6191...
- jf22 3y ago
  Public perception and reality are often at odds, but it doesn't mean the difference in perception is because of brainwashing, it's because humans are bad at measuring risk.
  - koolba 3y ago
    If the ones who are supposed to be informing the masses are deliberately feeding them information that leads them to inaccurately measure said risk, then that’s brainwashing.
  - somenameforme 3y ago
    I'd argue you're creating a bit of a false dichotomy there. I completely agree that the public is bad at measuring risk. But do you disagree that the media/politicians were actively working to exaggerate the impact of the disease? And really this even applied to organizations like the CDC. Read this [1] page and tell me how long you think it'd take the average person to realize they're talking about child hospitalizations with COVID and not child hospitalizations from COVID? The "summary" of the article is that "COVID-19 can cause severe illness in children and adolescents" followed by numbers talking about a shocking increase in rates. The fact it's talking about people hospitalized with COVID is hidden in a wall of text written in language that most people wouldn't be able to decipher. That more people tested positive for a more contagious variant, in any setting, is the most unremarkable news imaginable - spun into a terrifying headline, by the CDC no less. I see no way to imagine that article was written in good faith. And it's been the absolute norm for the past 3 years now. [1] - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7036e2.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7036e2.htm

somenameforme 3y ago

It sounds hyperbolic but look at any poll on how deadly people thought COVID was compared to how deadly it actually was. This study [1] found people believing that, on average, about 16% of people infected (diagnosed or not) with COVID died. In reality, there were a measured total of around 700 million cases and 7 million deaths. And vast numbers of cases went undiagnosed and so would never have ended up being tracked. In any case, the real IFR was well less than 1%. Brain washing is an unnecessarily loaded and divisive term, but it is safe to say that the media (and politicians) actively went out of their way to make people believe things that were not true, and they succeeded. [1] - https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.619145/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.6191...

jf22 3y ago
Public perception and reality are often at odds, but it doesn't mean the difference in perception is because of brainwashing, it's because humans are bad at measuring risk.
- koolba 3y ago
  If the ones who are supposed to be informing the masses are deliberately feeding them information that leads them to inaccurately measure said risk, then that’s brainwashing.
- somenameforme 3y ago
  I'd argue you're creating a bit of a false dichotomy there. I completely agree that the public is bad at measuring risk. But do you disagree that the media/politicians were actively working to exaggerate the impact of the disease? And really this even applied to organizations like the CDC. Read this [1] page and tell me how long you think it'd take the average person to realize they're talking about child hospitalizations with COVID and not child hospitalizations from COVID? The "summary" of the article is that "COVID-19 can cause severe illness in children and adolescents" followed by numbers talking about a shocking increase in rates. The fact it's talking about people hospitalized with COVID is hidden in a wall of text written in language that most people wouldn't be able to decipher. That more people tested positive for a more contagious variant, in any setting, is the most unremarkable news imaginable - spun into a terrifying headline, by the CDC no less. I see no way to imagine that article was written in good faith. And it's been the absolute norm for the past 3 years now. [1] - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7036e2.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7036e2.htm