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In America, over the course of the covid crisis, amazingly, Flu cases dropped to almost zero, while covid cases followed an almost exact graphed path to previou

In America, over the course of the covid crisis, amazingly, Flu cases dropped to almost zero, while covid cases followed an almost exact graphed path to previous flu cases.

camdat 3y ago
incorrect: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7015a7.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7015a7.htm
- jachriga 3y ago
  Those sort of arguments are always made in bad faith. Is it surprising that <arbitrary infectious disease> was lower during the pandemic, in the midst of unprecedented lockdowns and mask mandates? Absolutely not. The same goes for any argument that claims that COVID deaths were simply mis-classified to take advantage of special hospital reimbursements, and that people were really just dying of the standard flu. It takes almost no effort to show that the ALL-CAUSE risk of dying in America was excessively high during the pandemic years, which turns their argument from "they're just reclassifying flu deaths" into "there's a global conspiracy to submit extra death certificates for fictional people." [1][2][3][4] [1] Age-adjusted mortality up to 2018 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/mortality-trends/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/mortality-trends...) [2] Age-adjusted mortality for 2019 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-08-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-08-508.pdf) [3] Age-adjusted mortality for 2020-2021 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db456.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db456.pdf) [4] Provisional age-adjusted mortality for 2022 (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm) And for easy consumption of that data: https://imgur.com/a/zFYICrt https://imgur.com/a/zFYICrt
lakhim 3y ago
No. Covid 2020-2022 absolutely blew seasonal influenza out of the water. Flu came back winter of 2022 but was still vastly outnumbered about three to one. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2022-2023/NCHS38.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2022-2023/NCHS3...
triceratops 3y ago
Shocker: flu cases drop when people wear masks, stop socializing, and obsessively sanitize every surface. What's next? Eating less and exercising causes weight loss?
huytersd 3y ago
What’s the point you’re trying to make? We literally know what the COVID virus is. We know its RNA. It is markedly different from the consensus flu viral RNA. Are you trying to imply that COVID is the flu?

In America, over the course of the covid crisis, amazingly, Flu cases dropped to almost zero, while covid cases followed an almost exact graphed path to previous flu cases.

camdat 3y ago

incorrect: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7015a7.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7015a7.htm

jachriga 3y ago
Those sort of arguments are always made in bad faith. Is it surprising that <arbitrary infectious disease> was lower during the pandemic, in the midst of unprecedented lockdowns and mask mandates? Absolutely not. The same goes for any argument that claims that COVID deaths were simply mis-classified to take advantage of special hospital reimbursements, and that people were really just dying of the standard flu. It takes almost no effort to show that the ALL-CAUSE risk of dying in America was excessively high during the pandemic years, which turns their argument from "they're just reclassifying flu deaths" into "there's a global conspiracy to submit extra death certificates for fictional people." [1][2][3][4] [1] Age-adjusted mortality up to 2018 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/mortality-trends/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/mortality-trends...) [2] Age-adjusted mortality for 2019 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-08-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-08-508.pdf) [3] Age-adjusted mortality for 2020-2021 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db456.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db456.pdf) [4] Provisional age-adjusted mortality for 2022 (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm) And for easy consumption of that data: https://imgur.com/a/zFYICrt https://imgur.com/a/zFYICrt

lakhim 3y ago

No. Covid 2020-2022 absolutely blew seasonal influenza out of the water. Flu came back winter of 2022 but was still vastly outnumbered about three to one. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2022-2023/NCHS38.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2022-2023/NCHS3...

triceratops 3y ago

Shocker: flu cases drop when people wear masks, stop socializing, and obsessively sanitize every surface. What's next? Eating less and exercising causes weight loss?

huytersd 3y ago

What’s the point you’re trying to make? We literally know what the COVID virus is. We know its RNA. It is markedly different from the consensus flu viral RNA. Are you trying to imply that COVID is the flu?