> Today's "sysadmins" are kind-of, sort-of expected to know a programming language, at least superficially. This was definitely not the case in 2015. There was

> Today's "sysadmins" are kind-of, sort-of expected to know a programming language, at least superficially. This was definitely not the case in 2015. There was a "weird period" in 2010-2014 where mid level sysadmins didn't know much scripting or automation. I'm not sure how that happened. Senior sysadmins always scripted, Ruby was the de-facto choice for those folks in 2010-2015; before that it was mostly perl, and after that it seems to be mostly python. Mid-level sysadmins definitely knew bash and perl in 2000-2010. I think it was the rise of calling level 3 helpdesk "sysadmin" that sullied the brand. But the same will happen with other disciplines. I'm sure I'll hear in a couple years about SRE's or DevOps who can't code. Heck, I bet there are already devops who can't code, who only know how to template yaml.