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It's really unfortunate that the Pale Moon team are also totally unlikable, which is probably among the reasons why usage has dropped off since it was in vogue

It's really unfortunate that the Pale Moon team are also totally unlikable, which is probably among the reasons why usage has dropped off since it was in vogue in the early-mid 2010s. This[0] issue in a WIP repo for OpenBSD always reminds me of the line in The Big Lebowski "You're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole". It's fascinatingly hostile for little cause and a non-trivial amount of reputational damage. All in the name the vitally important cause of er... making sure there's not an implementation of Pale Moon that doesn't fully fit their license in a WIP repo. I suspect that they don't attract the best contributors, given how hard they seem to be to work with. [0]: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86 https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86

O1111OOO 3y ago
> It's really unfortunate that the Pale Moon team are also totally unlikable, which is probably among the reasons why usage has dropped off since it was in vogue in the early-mid 2010s. I'm not sure that's the reason. Regardless of feelings users may have toward developers, they'll still use the best tool for the job. I used Pale Moon on an older computer because none of the modern browsers performed well, including FF. I was well aware of some of the drama. (Likewise, I raged against Microsoft for years before I made the switch to Linux. So many other examples) When Mozilla went Quantum, it's performance was so good, it was able to replace Pale Moon. I wrote a thing about this here in 2019: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19367536 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19367536 I'm thinking that over the last 4 years (since 2019), many users have upgraded their hardware and the need for Pale Moon - as a lighter browser alternative - has simply diminished.
NBPEL 3y ago
Yeah, some of the devs and mods scared people away, say "Tobin", it got better but there's still a few left.

O1111OOO 3y ago

> It's really unfortunate that the Pale Moon team are also totally unlikable, which is probably among the reasons why usage has dropped off since it was in vogue in the early-mid 2010s. I'm not sure that's the reason. Regardless of feelings users may have toward developers, they'll still use the best tool for the job. I used Pale Moon on an older computer because none of the modern browsers performed well, including FF. I was well aware of some of the drama. (Likewise, I raged against Microsoft for years before I made the switch to Linux. So many other examples) When Mozilla went Quantum, it's performance was so good, it was able to replace Pale Moon. I wrote a thing about this here in 2019: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19367536 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19367536 I'm thinking that over the last 4 years (since 2019), many users have upgraded their hardware and the need for Pale Moon - as a lighter browser alternative - has simply diminished.

NBPEL 3y ago

Yeah, some of the devs and mods scared people away, say "Tobin", it got better but there's still a few left.