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look, if you take the two things in isolation, then you may have a point. the Venus is certainly a more beautiful artistic piece but you're trying to argue tha
by permo-w 3y ago
look, if you take the two things in isolation, then you may have a point. the Venus is certainly a more beautiful artistic piece
but you're trying to argue that an 11cm tall figurine with no facial features is a civilisational achievement on par with a massive 'temple' complex full of metres-high sculptures, reliefs and symbols that would require significant societal organisation and advancement: protection, education, food surplus, likely division of labour. decades of work at least
the Venus of Willendorf could indicate some of those things, but it equally could have just been made by one especially advanced human
- bazoom42 3y agoNobody is arguing that. You are wildly fighting strawmen. But the claim that “complex things like statues” were “not possible” is clearly BS.
- edgyquant 3y agoNo it isn’t, and a small figurine is specifically not a statue
- p-e-w 3y ago> the Venus of Willendorf could indicate some of those things, but it equally could have just been made by one especially advanced human Hundreds of such figurines have survived to the present day, so tens of thousands must have been produced. They used materials transported over 1000+ kilometers. Clearly, those were made by a large-scale network of artists learning from one another, part of a pan-European culture – not by a random genius doodling around, otherwise they wouldn't be so similar to each other. It's also pretty obvious from looking at the figurine that this wasn't the artist's first work. They probably had to make hundreds such statuettes before achieving this level of detail, so they were likely at least part-time professionals.