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Almost all the Russians I know personally support the war. They aren’t some silly ‘90 years olds with Alzheimer’s’ crowd, most of them are software engineers. S

Almost all the Russians I know personally support the war. They aren’t some silly ‘90 years olds with Alzheimer’s’ crowd, most of them are software engineers. Some of them know I live in Ukraine, yet they tell me they will ‘liberate me soon.’ From my own free will, I suppose.

concordDance 3y ago
The ones I know all oppose the war. I suspect yours may be more representative though...
- walteweiss 3y ago
  We cannot draw a legitimate statistics, as that could be our own bubble. But it’s incorrect to say an average Joe doesn’t support the war. Even those who oppose the war, do they do something? Or do they like ‘I don’t like it, but there’s nothing I can (want to) do.’
NicoJuicy 3y ago
Keep asking them why, they will normally fail after a couple of back and forth. "liberate us? Why", we are more free here in Ukraine. Follow up would be: are you free enough to be against the war? Why did so many Russians flee? Etc... Ps. Good luck... It's cruel what is happening now.
- walteweiss 3y ago
  Oh no, those who are ideological won’t fail quickly. It’s not that you show them there is no logic and they change their minds. It’s more like absolutely controversial realtors would peacefully coexist next to each other in their heads. The same way those conspiracy fanatics do.
  - NicoJuicy 3y ago
    It depends. A lot of times they are stuck with the recurring why loop. Same with the conspiracy theorists. Tbg. Sometimes they do find a farfetched reason that actually makes sense somehow. The normal rule is that it's too farfetched by then. And you could just say: do you realize how crazy that sounds? What if it's "just" .... x. Eg. for Elon Musk. He probably believes that Russia would nuke and he's just scared. Or his business in China is at stake. Which means he's getting hated in the West for something he will already lose in the future... Simple > conspiracy theory

concordDance 3y ago

The ones I know all oppose the war. I suspect yours may be more representative though...

walteweiss 3y ago
We cannot draw a legitimate statistics, as that could be our own bubble. But it’s incorrect to say an average Joe doesn’t support the war. Even those who oppose the war, do they do something? Or do they like ‘I don’t like it, but there’s nothing I can (want to) do.’

NicoJuicy 3y ago

Keep asking them why, they will normally fail after a couple of back and forth. "liberate us? Why", we are more free here in Ukraine. Follow up would be: are you free enough to be against the war? Why did so many Russians flee? Etc... Ps. Good luck... It's cruel what is happening now.

walteweiss 3y ago
Oh no, those who are ideological won’t fail quickly. It’s not that you show them there is no logic and they change their minds. It’s more like absolutely controversial realtors would peacefully coexist next to each other in their heads. The same way those conspiracy fanatics do.
- NicoJuicy 3y ago
  It depends. A lot of times they are stuck with the recurring why loop. Same with the conspiracy theorists. Tbg. Sometimes they do find a farfetched reason that actually makes sense somehow. The normal rule is that it's too farfetched by then. And you could just say: do you realize how crazy that sounds? What if it's "just" .... x. Eg. for Elon Musk. He probably believes that Russia would nuke and he's just scared. Or his business in China is at stake. Which means he's getting hated in the West for something he will already lose in the future... Simple > conspiracy theory