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They try hard to whitewash their affiliations to russia for potential customers while still not condemning the war. Jetbrains at least had the courage to do so
by siva7 3y ago
They try hard to whitewash their affiliations to russia for potential customers while still not condemning the war. Jetbrains at least had the courage to do so even though state-owned institutions in germany are checking to cut their ties even with them. I would strictly advise against using their (OnlyOffice) products if you're in a country (eu, america) that participates in the sanctions against russia.
- pulse7 3y ago"I would strictly advise against using their products if you're in a country (eu, america) that participates in the sanctions against russia." What is the exact meaning or "their" here: OnlyOffice or JetBrains?
- siva7 3y agoI can only say so for OnlyOffice and i've edited my comment.
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- auggierose 3y agoJetbrains is Czech, not Russian.
- siva7 3y agoThings get a bit more complicated when the founders are russian and had R&D offices in russia. To my knowledge they claimed to have cut all financial ties to russia and they also positioned themselves publicly against the war.
- omnimus 3y agoWatch out there are russian immigrants founding companies all over the place! Some of them have name Sergei. USA is even trying to attract those russian kids on purpose! What a conspiracy.
- siva7 3y agoThe google founders are american citizens.
- pooper 3y ago> Brin was born on August 21, 1973, in Moscow in the Soviet Union > The Brin family lived in Vienna and Paris while Mikhail Brin secured a teaching position at the University of Maryland with help from Anatole Katok. During this time, the Brin family received support and assistance from the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. They arrived in the United States on October 25, 1979. He is an immigrant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin
- siva7 3y agoYes, he is an immigrant but he is no longer a russian citizen. That is the whole point.
- webmobdev 3y agoIf he can be trusted to be an "American" as a naturalised citizen, why does America bar a naturalised citizen from becoming the President? (The US constitution bars naturalised citizens from contesting in the Presidential poll).
- farseer 3y agoCondemning the war while being inside Russia poses grave risks to personal safety. Surely they are a software outfit, not noble heroic knights.
- siva7 3y agoI don't know how i would have acted in their toes but i think i would still be held morally responsible if i just say that politics is none of my business because i'm the head of a software shop while my country is trying to annex a neighbour.
- soraminazuki 3y agoIf the parent comment wasn't clear enough, the consequence for openly criticizing the government in Russia is death. Demanding that others be a martyr while you stay safe from harm is a bit too much, don't you think?
- monetus 3y agoIirc, the sentence is more like 5 years in prison than death.
- soraminazuki 3y agoGet too much attention and it'll turn into extrajudicial killing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_Russian_businesspeople_(2022–2023) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_Russian_b...
- monetus 3y agoAh, indeed - can't be too high-profile. I watch candid interviews of random Russians on the street fairly frequently, and the fear of the sentence is nearly ubiquitous.
- laurent123456 3y ago
- reaperman 3y agoIt’s strictly illegal for them to directly criticize the war, with potentially severe penalties.