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Man I want this to be real so bad. I love e-ink and if I can have a monitor JUST for VSCode/programming, I'm sold. The guy scrolling CNN vertically looks like

Man I want this to be real so bad. I love e-ink and if I can have a monitor JUST for VSCode/programming, I'm sold. The guy scrolling CNN vertically looks like a scam, but the lady sitting reading CNN horizontally looks much more real. There's some ghosting in the lady's scroll as one would expect. Guessing like 20 Hz? Def want to see a longer, "real" video across a wider range of stuff. I'm highly skeptical this will produce, so I'll wait after kickstarter for this for sure.

Inviz 3y ago
Why is vertical monitor a scam? i'm reading this now on 27inch apple studio oriented vertically. It's really good as code editor screen
- callalex 3y ago
  They mean that the frame rate/responsiveness of that particular video shot is faked.
- quincepie 3y ago
  personally I think it's because it feels like that both the screen and the Iphone screens are edited on. Also, it feels like the finger flick scroll is too instant, I believe flick scrolling in Safari does not stop instantly but slowly slows down until it stops (unless it can be disabled). I could totally be wrong though.
- irjustin 3y ago
  other sibling comments got it, the video/gif of the vertically orientation looks like it's photoshopped/video edited; faked. there's no scroll lag between devices, nor image ghosting.
- esskay 3y ago
  They're talking about an e-ink being capable of that level of performance. You'd expect ghosting and noticable artifacts on the screen. E-ink is super slow.
PeterStuer 3y ago
It is 12 Hz, not 20 Hz.
mafuyu 3y ago
Bigme has been a player in the niche eink tablet market for a while now, so it's likely real, or at least not a complete scam. The fake marketing videos in the Kickstarter are atrocious, though. I would say Dasung and Onyx Mira are the popular brands for eink monitors. If you only want greyscale, those two have decent options available today. It seems like this larger color eink panel just became available, which is why you see both Dasung and Bigme building products around it now.
- irjustin 3y ago
  Makes sense about the color displays just coming onto market. that's traditionally what's kept me from exploring for coding. lack of colors is a nightmare in code reading.
  - rbanffy 3y ago
    For me, I find color distracting. I prefer shades of the same color and typography for code highlighting. I still remember Apple’s Pascal on early Macs with monochrome screens and it did wonders with 1 bit per pixel.
    - uoaei 3y ago
      Can you share a config or at least an example for your code highlighting setups? I've always relied on colors because I can't imagine a typography-based highlighter that doesn't use (the atrocious to me in monospace code) italics.
      - rbanffy 3y ago
        Sure. I’ll find a couple examples I have.
        uoaei 3y ago
        ping?
fzzzy 3y ago
it's not a scam. the tradeoff is bad ghosting.
- shultays 3y ago
  I don't see any bad ghosting in the video/animation in article/kickstarter. It is a scam since it is something they can't deliver yet collecting money for.

Inviz 3y ago

Why is vertical monitor a scam? i'm reading this now on 27inch apple studio oriented vertically. It's really good as code editor screen

callalex 3y ago
They mean that the frame rate/responsiveness of that particular video shot is faked.
quincepie 3y ago
personally I think it's because it feels like that both the screen and the Iphone screens are edited on. Also, it feels like the finger flick scroll is too instant, I believe flick scrolling in Safari does not stop instantly but slowly slows down until it stops (unless it can be disabled). I could totally be wrong though.
irjustin 3y ago
other sibling comments got it, the video/gif of the vertically orientation looks like it's photoshopped/video edited; faked. there's no scroll lag between devices, nor image ghosting.
esskay 3y ago
They're talking about an e-ink being capable of that level of performance. You'd expect ghosting and noticable artifacts on the screen. E-ink is super slow.

PeterStuer 3y ago

It is 12 Hz, not 20 Hz.

mafuyu 3y ago

Bigme has been a player in the niche eink tablet market for a while now, so it's likely real, or at least not a complete scam. The fake marketing videos in the Kickstarter are atrocious, though. I would say Dasung and Onyx Mira are the popular brands for eink monitors. If you only want greyscale, those two have decent options available today. It seems like this larger color eink panel just became available, which is why you see both Dasung and Bigme building products around it now.

irjustin 3y ago
Makes sense about the color displays just coming onto market. that's traditionally what's kept me from exploring for coding. lack of colors is a nightmare in code reading.
- rbanffy 3y ago
  For me, I find color distracting. I prefer shades of the same color and typography for code highlighting. I still remember Apple’s Pascal on early Macs with monochrome screens and it did wonders with 1 bit per pixel.
  - uoaei 3y ago
    Can you share a config or at least an example for your code highlighting setups? I've always relied on colors because I can't imagine a typography-based highlighter that doesn't use (the atrocious to me in monospace code) italics.
    - rbanffy 3y ago
      Sure. I’ll find a couple examples I have.
      - uoaei 3y ago
        ping?

fzzzy 3y ago

it's not a scam. the tradeoff is bad ghosting.

shultays 3y ago
I don't see any bad ghosting in the video/animation in article/kickstarter. It is a scam since it is something they can't deliver yet collecting money for.