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I doubt this is common. The UK press seems to universally be on a hate the EV push over the past year and its often made up garbage. I don't know what the press

I doubt this is common. The UK press seems to universally be on a hate the EV push over the past year and its often made up garbage. I don't know what the presses issue is with EVs but they sure are making up a lot of problems that owners don't actually have of late. If this was happening to all EV owners we would be seeing them all complaining about it, yet this is an article about one person not a poll showing this is happening widely.

Symbiote 3y ago
It's the Guardian, not the Sun. They have quotes from the insurers themselves. > John Lewis Financial Services told us: “Our underwriter has temporarily paused offering new policies and renewals on fully electric vehicles while they analyse the risks and costs entailed. This decision does not affect any existing policies in force, or hybrid vehicles.”
- tim333 3y ago
  They also give the general figures - 'typical' £959 electric £848 petrol, so it's more the headline that is kind of scary. Though those prices still seem quite high to me. I've paid between £75 and £310 per year to insure a petrol car in the UK over the last decade. But I don't claim much.
  - brianwawok 3y ago
    Did your 75 policy include fixing your car in an accident? In the US at least; the only policies that low only fix the other persons car - not yours, and cannot be used if the car had a loan.
    - tim333 3y ago
      I think it did but I was surprised by the price there as it's not normally that cheap. It was a second car with 'classic car' insurance. I went on a comparison site and got a quote for more than that which I didn't do anything with, and then some guy called me offering to insure for £75. I guess it was a promo to get new customers probably.
monero-xmr 3y ago
It’s also weird that any criticism whatsoever of what is loved by techies - EVs, self driving cars, AI supremacy - is brushed aside as a conspiracy, exaggeration, and lies. Go right this second and try to find the cheapest EV with the $7500 tax subsidy and it’s still $10000 more than a comparable gas car. Do the math on solar panel installs and it barely makes sense even with the subsidies, and you are only 1 sudden roof replacement away from making it all worthless. Wind is being renegotiated / written off on the East Coast. Yes, if we dump trillions of dollars into this tech and squint really hard it might make sense. But it’s pretty dismal.
- thebruce87m 3y ago
  The same people who claim they are too expensive also claim they lose their value quickly. While these can both be true, surely they shouldn’t complain if nearly new second hand cars are cheap? They also claim that batteries are expensive to replace, but if I can buy a nearly new second hand car for next to nothing, why would I buy a brand new expensive battery? Why are the US writing off wind? We generate a huge amount of electricity from wind in Scotland. Is it not windy is the US? https://electricityproduction.uk/in/scotland/ https://electricityproduction.uk/in/scotland/
  - lttlrck 3y ago
    > if I can buy a nearly new second hand car for next to nothing, why would I buy a brand new expensive battery? If. This doesn't sound like it will foment a healthy used car market, at least not one that's anything like used ICE.
- reducesuffering 3y ago
  Bolt EV
  - monero-xmr 3y ago
    The car they literally just canceled? https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a43699126/gm-cancels-chevy-bolt-and-banks-on-ultium-evs-and-new-battery-plant/ https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a43699126/gm-can... I know a guy who owned a Volt for years and it was a total piece of shit.

Symbiote 3y ago

It's the Guardian, not the Sun. They have quotes from the insurers themselves. > John Lewis Financial Services told us: “Our underwriter has temporarily paused offering new policies and renewals on fully electric vehicles while they analyse the risks and costs entailed. This decision does not affect any existing policies in force, or hybrid vehicles.”

tim333 3y ago
They also give the general figures - 'typical' £959 electric £848 petrol, so it's more the headline that is kind of scary. Though those prices still seem quite high to me. I've paid between £75 and £310 per year to insure a petrol car in the UK over the last decade. But I don't claim much.
- brianwawok 3y ago
  Did your 75 policy include fixing your car in an accident? In the US at least; the only policies that low only fix the other persons car - not yours, and cannot be used if the car had a loan.
  - tim333 3y ago
    I think it did but I was surprised by the price there as it's not normally that cheap. It was a second car with 'classic car' insurance. I went on a comparison site and got a quote for more than that which I didn't do anything with, and then some guy called me offering to insure for £75. I guess it was a promo to get new customers probably.

monero-xmr 3y ago

It’s also weird that any criticism whatsoever of what is loved by techies - EVs, self driving cars, AI supremacy - is brushed aside as a conspiracy, exaggeration, and lies. Go right this second and try to find the cheapest EV with the $7500 tax subsidy and it’s still $10000 more than a comparable gas car. Do the math on solar panel installs and it barely makes sense even with the subsidies, and you are only 1 sudden roof replacement away from making it all worthless. Wind is being renegotiated / written off on the East Coast. Yes, if we dump trillions of dollars into this tech and squint really hard it might make sense. But it’s pretty dismal.

thebruce87m 3y ago
The same people who claim they are too expensive also claim they lose their value quickly. While these can both be true, surely they shouldn’t complain if nearly new second hand cars are cheap? They also claim that batteries are expensive to replace, but if I can buy a nearly new second hand car for next to nothing, why would I buy a brand new expensive battery? Why are the US writing off wind? We generate a huge amount of electricity from wind in Scotland. Is it not windy is the US? https://electricityproduction.uk/in/scotland/ https://electricityproduction.uk/in/scotland/
- lttlrck 3y ago
  > if I can buy a nearly new second hand car for next to nothing, why would I buy a brand new expensive battery? If. This doesn't sound like it will foment a healthy used car market, at least not one that's anything like used ICE.
reducesuffering 3y ago
Bolt EV
- monero-xmr 3y ago
  The car they literally just canceled? https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a43699126/gm-cancels-chevy-bolt-and-banks-on-ultium-evs-and-new-battery-plant/ https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a43699126/gm-can... I know a guy who owned a Volt for years and it was a total piece of shit.