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This comment has to be rage bait right? Who takes speeding or any traffic ticket this seriously; convicted criminal, really?

upon_drumhead 3y ago
The majority of traffic tickets (including speeding tickets) are civil offenses and generally not considered a crime. It's not until you get into reckless driving, street racing, or similar that they move into criminal classes (misdemeanor/felony)
- crooked-v 3y ago
  That's also part of the general racket of small-town speed traps: if there were real permanent consequences to nonsense speeding tickets, people would contest them instead of paying to make them go away.
tom_ 3y ago
Speeding in a motor vehicle is a criminal offence in the UK. I think the relevant section is clause 89 here: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/part/VI https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/part/VI
notacoward 3y ago
I think there's a bit of sarcasm present in this case, but it really is a common sentiment in /r/fuckcars and similar places - and many of those folks are here as well. To them, any driver is a murderer who just hasn't succeeded yet. Really. Any hyperbole is theirs, not mine. I would not be surprised to see more comments similar to GP's, minus any sarcasm, from people with the privilege to afford housing in one of the few places where all of the driving essential to their lifestyle is done out of their sight. P.S. For those who think cherry-picking is going to win the day, try this search: murder inurl:fuckcars site:reddit.com. I'm not misrepresenting them at all.
- tom_ 3y ago
  Once you've passed your driving test, and spent a bit of time driving on the roads, you'll change your tune!
  - notacoward 3y ago
    I've been driving for over 40 years, 300K miles or so, in multiple parts of the US and occasionally other countries, no serious mishaps and totally clean record for over half of that time. If you want to say that most drivers really suck I'll agree, but what was the point of that misguided attempt at character assassination? Read the guidelines before you reply, since you've already stepped over that line.
    - tom_ 3y ago
      Well you've got me beat in years and mileage, but I've probably driven, like, 200,000 miles, and my experience has been that people are, by and large, extremely careless when driving cars. They will happily put other people's lives at risk in order to save themselves a handful of seconds, and sometimes it doesn't even come down to that, because they were just looking at their phone and weren't really paying attention. Don't ever call them out on this though, because you'll never hear the end of it. Anyway, I don't trust any of them, and if you had any sense, you wouldn't either. But I'm not your dad, so I can't tell you what to do. Good luck out there! EDIT: you edited your reply? - or (more likely!) I am retarded and missed the last sentence first time round, sorry about that. Anyway, the so-called misguided attempt at character assassination was neither, just a bit of pointed mockery aimed at what I see as a crappy opinion. I stand by it - I think it's vaguely amusing enough to have value for the general reader, and not offensive enough to be really problematic. Page dang if you're still unhappy.
- chmod775 3y ago
  > [..] it really is a common sentiment in /r/fuckcars and similar places [..] to them, any driver is a murderer who just hasn't succeeded yet. Really. Any hyperbole is theirs, not mine. I had a look at their subreddit. They currently have one giant thread asking "Do you think cars should be banned outright?", and not a single upvoted comment is even saying yes.[1] Overall they seem more concerned with how car-centric infrastructure and too many cars in cities reduce quality of life. It's fair to say you're misrepresenting that community. Why? [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/16x7d3x/how_extreme_are_you/ https://old.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/16x7d3x/how_extre...

upon_drumhead 3y ago

The majority of traffic tickets (including speeding tickets) are civil offenses and generally not considered a crime. It's not until you get into reckless driving, street racing, or similar that they move into criminal classes (misdemeanor/felony)

crooked-v 3y ago
That's also part of the general racket of small-town speed traps: if there were real permanent consequences to nonsense speeding tickets, people would contest them instead of paying to make them go away.

tom_ 3y ago

Speeding in a motor vehicle is a criminal offence in the UK. I think the relevant section is clause 89 here: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/part/VI https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/part/VI

notacoward 3y ago

I think there's a bit of sarcasm present in this case, but it really is a common sentiment in /r/fuckcars and similar places - and many of those folks are here as well. To them, any driver is a murderer who just hasn't succeeded yet. Really. Any hyperbole is theirs, not mine. I would not be surprised to see more comments similar to GP's, minus any sarcasm, from people with the privilege to afford housing in one of the few places where all of the driving essential to their lifestyle is done out of their sight. P.S. For those who think cherry-picking is going to win the day, try this search: murder inurl:fuckcars site:reddit.com. I'm not misrepresenting them at all.

tom_ 3y ago
Once you've passed your driving test, and spent a bit of time driving on the roads, you'll change your tune!
- notacoward 3y ago
  I've been driving for over 40 years, 300K miles or so, in multiple parts of the US and occasionally other countries, no serious mishaps and totally clean record for over half of that time. If you want to say that most drivers really suck I'll agree, but what was the point of that misguided attempt at character assassination? Read the guidelines before you reply, since you've already stepped over that line.
  - tom_ 3y ago
    Well you've got me beat in years and mileage, but I've probably driven, like, 200,000 miles, and my experience has been that people are, by and large, extremely careless when driving cars. They will happily put other people's lives at risk in order to save themselves a handful of seconds, and sometimes it doesn't even come down to that, because they were just looking at their phone and weren't really paying attention. Don't ever call them out on this though, because you'll never hear the end of it. Anyway, I don't trust any of them, and if you had any sense, you wouldn't either. But I'm not your dad, so I can't tell you what to do. Good luck out there! EDIT: you edited your reply? - or (more likely!) I am retarded and missed the last sentence first time round, sorry about that. Anyway, the so-called misguided attempt at character assassination was neither, just a bit of pointed mockery aimed at what I see as a crappy opinion. I stand by it - I think it's vaguely amusing enough to have value for the general reader, and not offensive enough to be really problematic. Page dang if you're still unhappy.
chmod775 3y ago
> [..] it really is a common sentiment in /r/fuckcars and similar places [..] to them, any driver is a murderer who just hasn't succeeded yet. Really. Any hyperbole is theirs, not mine. I had a look at their subreddit. They currently have one giant thread asking "Do you think cars should be banned outright?", and not a single upvoted comment is even saying yes.[1] Overall they seem more concerned with how car-centric infrastructure and too many cars in cities reduce quality of life. It's fair to say you're misrepresenting that community. Why? [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/16x7d3x/how_extreme_are_you/ https://old.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/16x7d3x/how_extre...