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If you're interested in learning more about these incredible Turkish archaeological sites, I can't recommend the YouTube channel Miniminuteman [0] enough. Milo

by mkaic 3y ago

If you're interested in learning more about these incredible Turkish archaeological sites, I can't recommend the YouTube channel Miniminuteman [0] enough. Milo is extremely passionate about his field of study and makes highly entertaining and informative videos about archaeology and anthropology, including a recent series where he became the first real archaeologist ever to be allowed to film a documentary on-site at Karahantepe! [1] [0] https://www.youtube.com/@miniminuteman773 https://www.youtube.com/@miniminuteman773 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EaKFKYPXVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EaKFKYPXVk

softfalcon 3y ago
+1 for Miniminuteman! His shorts debunking flat-earther types is also incredibly entertaining.
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jpsouth 3y ago
His shorts are hilarious too, he has some great mini-debunks of conspiracies.
- Hikikomori 3y ago
  And a multi hour debunk of ancient apocalypse.
6D794163636F756 3y ago
I just found him on Friday and lost the weekend. I can definitely say that his passion is infectious and makes the topics far more interesting.
throwaway290 3y ago
He mentions that people back then lived around 35 years. I recall reading it's a mistaken interpretation of the average age, while many people died infants adults actually easily lived to 70+ yo. Is it true and he made the same mistake or am I thinking about a different period in history?
- softfalcon 3y ago
  These statistics regularly make it sound like everyone was dying off around 30. In reality, it is due to infant mortality rates. Once you make it past a certain age (10-15 years) your life expectancy shoots up into the 40-60's easily. However, when you average the population out, those infant deaths tank the average life expectancy. I'm not surprised they glossed over this, most researchers do, because they don't want to go into infantile deaths, disease spread during child birth, still births, etc. Not only is it a complex topic, but it's fraught with political and religious ideology. When my history and anthropology professors started talking about it, certain folks of a particular religious bent almost immediately started trying to correct them about it.
  - throwaway290 3y ago
    The guy in the video said "their lifespans would have only been around 35 years" which sounds not so much glossing over as being plain incorrect. I am annoyed by these slips every time because they make it seem as if we live so much longer since hunter-gatherer times... Modern medicine reduced early age mortality, sure, but funny enough it did not do much to increase max lifespan (and especially healthy lifespan).
    - softfalcon 3y ago
      Ah, yeah, that sounds like it was indeed just incorrect. To add to your comment about modern medicine. Keep in mind that when you isolate out infant mortality, you get an average life span of roughly 60-ish in ancient times. Present day mortality is closer to 85+ for the G7 countries and 75+ for other fairly well developed countries. That's a 25 year increase! Given those statistics, I would say modern medicine is actually doing quite a bit to improve life expectancy into your golden years!
      - Aerbil313 3y ago
        IMHO healthy life expectancy should be the thing which is discussed and referenced. Back then you’d likely just die if you were too sick to comfortably live.

by mkaic 3y ago

softfalcon 3y ago

+1 for Miniminuteman! His shorts debunking flat-earther types is also incredibly entertaining.

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jpsouth 3y ago

His shorts are hilarious too, he has some great mini-debunks of conspiracies.

Hikikomori 3y ago
And a multi hour debunk of ancient apocalypse.

6D794163636F756 3y ago

I just found him on Friday and lost the weekend. I can definitely say that his passion is infectious and makes the topics far more interesting.

throwaway290 3y ago

He mentions that people back then lived around 35 years. I recall reading it's a mistaken interpretation of the average age, while many people died infants adults actually easily lived to 70+ yo. Is it true and he made the same mistake or am I thinking about a different period in history?

softfalcon 3y ago
These statistics regularly make it sound like everyone was dying off around 30. In reality, it is due to infant mortality rates. Once you make it past a certain age (10-15 years) your life expectancy shoots up into the 40-60's easily. However, when you average the population out, those infant deaths tank the average life expectancy. I'm not surprised they glossed over this, most researchers do, because they don't want to go into infantile deaths, disease spread during child birth, still births, etc. Not only is it a complex topic, but it's fraught with political and religious ideology. When my history and anthropology professors started talking about it, certain folks of a particular religious bent almost immediately started trying to correct them about it.
- throwaway290 3y ago
  The guy in the video said "their lifespans would have only been around 35 years" which sounds not so much glossing over as being plain incorrect. I am annoyed by these slips every time because they make it seem as if we live so much longer since hunter-gatherer times... Modern medicine reduced early age mortality, sure, but funny enough it did not do much to increase max lifespan (and especially healthy lifespan).
  - softfalcon 3y ago
    Ah, yeah, that sounds like it was indeed just incorrect. To add to your comment about modern medicine. Keep in mind that when you isolate out infant mortality, you get an average life span of roughly 60-ish in ancient times. Present day mortality is closer to 85+ for the G7 countries and 75+ for other fairly well developed countries. That's a 25 year increase! Given those statistics, I would say modern medicine is actually doing quite a bit to improve life expectancy into your golden years!
    - Aerbil313 3y ago
      IMHO healthy life expectancy should be the thing which is discussed and referenced. Back then you’d likely just die if you were too sick to comfortably live.