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> Sounds like it needs a special program and configuration, which is not needed on Apple devices How else would it work across different devices? Apple devices

> Sounds like it needs a special program and configuration, which is not needed on Apple devices How else would it work across different devices? Apple devices can not connect to e.g. Android devices without a 'special program and configuration' nor can they do so with Linux or Windows or whatever other devices. > Also, KDE Connect needs both devices to be in the same network - which is not needed for Apple devices KDE Connect and other similar tools work fine over a VPN which is the preferred solution for such setups. You can choose which VPN you want to use, OpenVPN and Wireguard are two popular choices. Here again that VPN can be used to connect disparate devices - Linux, Windows, Android, Apple-things, whatever. Apple devices only talk to other Apple devices which is far more restrictive. If you are a happy camper in the walled garden then things are good for you. I prefer the freedom of camping in the wild even if that means I may have to build my own fire and cook my own food since it enables me to go where I please without being held back by that wall and without having to pay the ferryman. To each his own I guess?

askonomm 3y ago
> How else would it work across different devices? Apple devices can not connect to e.g. Android devices I was talking about Mac and iPhone having seamless integration - something I have not noticed of any other ecosystem. I have not been able to share clipboards with an android and a PC (Win and Linux) without installing an app, or doing some other hacky things. The integration, while possible, doesn't exist by default. It's not seamless. It doesn't _just work_. > KDE Connect and other similar tools work fine over a VPN I don't want to use a VPN? I want to use my regular home wifi or phone network, like a normal person.
- the_third_wave 3y ago
  > I have not been able to share clipboards with an android and a PC (Win and Linux) without installing an app, or doing some other hacky things How else would this type of interchange work between disparate systems other than by equipping all systems with a piece of software to bridge the gap? In what way is this a problem and what makes it 'hacky'? When you want to use your Apple-device to interact with something non-Apple you install a piece of software to enable this interaction - that was the premise of a 'smart phone' after all, a device which' functionality can be extended by installing software? This in contrast to a 'feature phone' where all functionality has been baked in by the manufacturer/distributor. You seem to be using your Apple devices more in the way of the latter - using only manufacturer-provided functionality. > I don't want to use a VPN? I want to use my regular home wifi or phone network, like a normal person. I do not want to use 'the cloud' and Bluetooth in ways I do not have control over [1] - as I said, to each his own? [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/02/26/simple-apple-security-hack-if-you-have-an-iphone-and-macbook-look-away-now/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/02/26/simple-ap...

askonomm 3y ago

> How else would it work across different devices? Apple devices can not connect to e.g. Android devices I was talking about Mac and iPhone having seamless integration - something I have not noticed of any other ecosystem. I have not been able to share clipboards with an android and a PC (Win and Linux) without installing an app, or doing some other hacky things. The integration, while possible, doesn't exist by default. It's not seamless. It doesn't _just work_. > KDE Connect and other similar tools work fine over a VPN I don't want to use a VPN? I want to use my regular home wifi or phone network, like a normal person.

the_third_wave 3y ago
> I have not been able to share clipboards with an android and a PC (Win and Linux) without installing an app, or doing some other hacky things How else would this type of interchange work between disparate systems other than by equipping all systems with a piece of software to bridge the gap? In what way is this a problem and what makes it 'hacky'? When you want to use your Apple-device to interact with something non-Apple you install a piece of software to enable this interaction - that was the premise of a 'smart phone' after all, a device which' functionality can be extended by installing software? This in contrast to a 'feature phone' where all functionality has been baked in by the manufacturer/distributor. You seem to be using your Apple devices more in the way of the latter - using only manufacturer-provided functionality. > I don't want to use a VPN? I want to use my regular home wifi or phone network, like a normal person. I do not want to use 'the cloud' and Bluetooth in ways I do not have control over [1] - as I said, to each his own? [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/02/26/simple-apple-security-hack-if-you-have-an-iphone-and-macbook-look-away-now/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/02/26/simple-ap...