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>> This wasn’t intended as any sort of super-duper hot take, and I pared the post down to avoid having too much of an attack surface. It is intended to shame R

>> This wasn’t intended as any sort of super-duper hot take, and I pared the post down to avoid having too much of an attack surface. It is intended to shame Republicans. What other possible reason is there to tie death rates to political party? So yes it was a hot take. You planted a lightning rod. Making something like vaccination a political issue does everyone a disservice.

mjmsmith 3y ago
It certainly did a disservice to the people who died because their politics convinced them that the vaccine was worse than the disease.
- autoexec 3y ago
  The idea that nobody should ever point that fact out seems crazy to me. We should be using this as an example when teaching critical thinking skills to kids in schools so that they know not to let political ideology and lies manipulate them into the grave.
RIMR 3y ago
Yeah, let's not make this political. /s
orblivion 3y ago
It also shames Democrats to an extent because they were more likely to support restrictions before the vaccines.
lemmsjid 3y ago
While I’m a democrat, I don’t believe republicans or democrats are inherently better people, or that their overarching ideologies are inherently better. In fact I am a strong believer that absolute power corrupts absolutely, and neither republicans or democrats should win it all. That said, certain Republicans should very much feel shame about the fear mongering behind the vaccine. It isn’t automatically a hot take or a lightning rod to use statistical analyses to suggest that systemic fear mongering against a vaccine that has a powerful effect would lead to excess death. The vaccine long ago became a political issue, but the real world need for people to take it doesn’t go away because of that.
- RIMR 3y ago
  >I don’t believe republicans or democrats are inherently better people Then you aren't paying attention to what the Republican party stands for. Moral relativism has limits, and the Republican party now regularly acts with malice.
justin66 3y ago
> Making something like vaccination a political issue does everyone a disservice. You can pin a lot on nate silver, but vaccination as a political issue is a thing he's studying, not a thing he caused.

mjmsmith 3y ago

It certainly did a disservice to the people who died because their politics convinced them that the vaccine was worse than the disease.

autoexec 3y ago
The idea that nobody should ever point that fact out seems crazy to me. We should be using this as an example when teaching critical thinking skills to kids in schools so that they know not to let political ideology and lies manipulate them into the grave.

RIMR 3y ago

Yeah, let's not make this political. /s

orblivion 3y ago

It also shames Democrats to an extent because they were more likely to support restrictions before the vaccines.

lemmsjid 3y ago

While I’m a democrat, I don’t believe republicans or democrats are inherently better people, or that their overarching ideologies are inherently better. In fact I am a strong believer that absolute power corrupts absolutely, and neither republicans or democrats should win it all. That said, certain Republicans should very much feel shame about the fear mongering behind the vaccine. It isn’t automatically a hot take or a lightning rod to use statistical analyses to suggest that systemic fear mongering against a vaccine that has a powerful effect would lead to excess death. The vaccine long ago became a political issue, but the real world need for people to take it doesn’t go away because of that.

RIMR 3y ago
>I don’t believe republicans or democrats are inherently better people Then you aren't paying attention to what the Republican party stands for. Moral relativism has limits, and the Republican party now regularly acts with malice.

justin66 3y ago

> Making something like vaccination a political issue does everyone a disservice. You can pin a lot on nate silver, but vaccination as a political issue is a thing he's studying, not a thing he caused.