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They probably did all of this to increase some KPI. The more fine grained authorization system problem resulted in less interactions. A lot of applications have

They probably did all of this to increase some KPI. The more fine grained authorization system problem resulted in less interactions. A lot of applications have too many incentives to keep you engaged as long as possible. I think apple has a nice setting where you can disable all notifications after a certain time slot in the evening. But this only works in the evenings, during the day they can still spam all day long. At this point i cannot trust application developers anymore so we probably need an additional layer between the application and the OS to filter the notifications. If applications do not want to give you fine grained permissions. All you can do is give the application the permission and then have an additional layer filter the notifications with some kind of firewall rule.

standardUser 3y ago
A notification management system sounds like something that needs to exist, but how would it work if companies don't adhere to standards? I don't see any way out of this that doesn't first involve legislation.
- almatabata 3y ago
  Technology moves really fast and laws move really slow. Hence i would prefer if we had a solution that would not require this kind of legislative intervention. But as you say a lot of applications will not play nice. And neither google nor apple really has the incentive to fix it on their side. Only an outside force could force this but i do not see how you would legislate this in a future proof way. And it would probably need to become a legislation adopted by multiple big companies before they would roll it out to all countries.
- flashback2199 3y ago
  Machine learning! Android could filter notifications, easy.
  - standardUser 3y ago
    I would trust that about as much as I trust their spam filtering, which is very little. And notifications are usually a lot more important than any given email these days.
    - flashback2199 3y ago
      That's super weird to me because spam filtering works amazingly for me. I don't think I will buy an iPhone because of how well the machine learning based features on Android have been working on my pixel.

standardUser 3y ago

A notification management system sounds like something that needs to exist, but how would it work if companies don't adhere to standards? I don't see any way out of this that doesn't first involve legislation.

almatabata 3y ago
Technology moves really fast and laws move really slow. Hence i would prefer if we had a solution that would not require this kind of legislative intervention. But as you say a lot of applications will not play nice. And neither google nor apple really has the incentive to fix it on their side. Only an outside force could force this but i do not see how you would legislate this in a future proof way. And it would probably need to become a legislation adopted by multiple big companies before they would roll it out to all countries.
flashback2199 3y ago
Machine learning! Android could filter notifications, easy.
- standardUser 3y ago
  I would trust that about as much as I trust their spam filtering, which is very little. And notifications are usually a lot more important than any given email these days.
  - flashback2199 3y ago
    That's super weird to me because spam filtering works amazingly for me. I don't think I will buy an iPhone because of how well the machine learning based features on Android have been working on my pixel.