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I think that your statement is more of a stretch, than the idea that quite intelligent, social creatures aren't using a language that we simply don't understand

I think that your statement is more of a stretch, than the idea that quite intelligent, social creatures aren't using a language that we simply don't understand. I'd love to know what the local ravens are saying to each other; there is quite the variety of calls, and quite situational.

fmajid 3y ago
Corvids are able to recognize individual humans who were helpful to them (or harmful) and share that with others, it's hard to see how that can happen without language ("watch out for the weird standing monkey with the yellow feathers on top, he's likely to throw a stone at you").
- underlipton 3y ago
  The crows that live nearby are wary of me, probably because of two incidents (they saw me standing next to a crow's body, which I'd come across during a walk; and, on another walk, a branch had suddenly broken out from under another crow as I passed the tree it was in). I hear a particular call whenever I pass by them now, though I basically never see them anymore.
- tlavoie 3y ago
  My ravens are still wary of me, but they always have been. Somewhat less so in the last while, since I've been putting peanuts out for them; they'll still move away when I get close, but not far, and not until I've gotten fairly close. I really want to know what one's got against my little security cameras though... I've got video of one taking one off the railing I put the peanuts on, and (I assume) the same guy has been working to knock another off the driveway gate post. https://youtu.be/y3C-Tf8FeVA https://youtu.be/y3C-Tf8FeVA My son and his girlfriend had a great encounter with one, driving down the Dempster Highway in Yukon. It surfed the wind on the hood of their Jeep for something like 45 minutes, and hopped close enough to grab cat treats when they stopped for a bit. That's on YouTube as well.

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I think that your statement is more of a stretch, than the idea that quite intelligent, social creatures aren't using a language that we simply don't understand

by tlavoie 3y ago

fmajid 3y ago
Corvids are able to recognize individual humans who were helpful to them (or harmful) and share that with others, it's hard to see how that can happen without language ("watch out for the weird standing monkey with the yellow feathers on top, he's likely to throw a stone at you").
- underlipton 3y ago
  The crows that live nearby are wary of me, probably because of two incidents (they saw me standing next to a crow's body, which I'd come across during a walk; and, on another walk, a branch had suddenly broken out from under another crow as I passed the tree it was in). I hear a particular call whenever I pass by them now, though I basically never see them anymore.
- tlavoie 3y ago
  My ravens are still wary of me, but they always have been. Somewhat less so in the last while, since I've been putting peanuts out for them; they'll still move away when I get close, but not far, and not until I've gotten fairly close. I really want to know what one's got against my little security cameras though... I've got video of one taking one off the railing I put the peanuts on, and (I assume) the same guy has been working to knock another off the driveway gate post. https://youtu.be/y3C-Tf8FeVA https://youtu.be/y3C-Tf8FeVA My son and his girlfriend had a great encounter with one, driving down the Dempster Highway in Yukon. It surfed the wind on the hood of their Jeep for something like 45 minutes, and hopped close enough to grab cat treats when they stopped for a bit. That's on YouTube as well.